IanS16 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I don't think I've heard a good report about **** to be honest and if naming and shaming stops it happening to another forum member then I think they should be named. Unlike a lot of the traders here they don't really contribute anything to this forum. edit: Just remembered, nurrish paid them a lot of money too for his car to 'develop' a missfire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well I'm still none the wiser... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well I'm still none the wiser... Glad I'm not the only one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4XNY Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I want to know!! Or should I avoid the Leicestershire area in my Zed???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demolition49 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 We can all make our own decision better to tell us, especially if nurrish has used them and every knows how vbad they are yet "oh no we cant tell" i dont get it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 search function on this site especially with nurrish named might shed light for those in the dark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I don't think I've heard a good report about **** to be honest and if naming and shaming stops it happening to another forum member then I think they should be named. Unlike a lot of the traders here they don't really contribute anything to this forum. edit: Just remembered, nurrish paid them a lot of money too for his car to 'develop' a missfire Funny that, my car had the same fault there with the same equipment I also paid them a lot of money & from what I can tell I paid it for them to plug in an 02 sensor, an oil temp sensor & a snadwich plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Thor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 We have a winner!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 THORght so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 http://www.mr2roc.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=30242 second paragraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikarus Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Trust you Sarnie. Rich, your link is to a thread about Rogue, the mr2 specialists. Not sure on the connection? If a moderator says it's OK to name them then I will - or link to the 300zx thread - but I enjoy being on this forum and don't want to break the rules. I think the point is that in this case the information is unsubstantiated and so it could be seen as unfair to name the trader. It's a bit of a grey area to say the least. I can see it from both directions. TBH though this thread can just be taken as a warning to either use an approved trader on here OR do some research before putting any money down elsewhere. I'm sure if you pm'd any of the members here that have experienced these people and asked for their advice on where to take your car they would steer you in the right direction, ie toward a good trader / tuner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Name and shame I say, that's IMO, but sarnie has already told everyone so you may as well give all the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikarus Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Good enough for me Chris. I think it's no surprise, the trader was.. THOR This is a post from the 300zx thread, there is more but this gets the point across: So couple of weeks we went down to pick my car and parts up. Took about 3 hours to get there then a further about 3 hours to load the van up of parts. We totally filled a big Transit van full of my parts. All was good up until this point. Through out the duration they kept making comments saying i was a fool and left the car for them to finish trying to make me feel bad. They had it for over a year and a half and the engine was out the car and still totally in bits. Sod all had been done. Anyway... So the car was loaded on to a trailer, most the parts were in the van, the garage said here are your parts and watched as we loaded which is fair enough. Keeping in mind they had my car for a long time and in that period i had a few bits n bobs sent to them in that time. Luckily for me a was prepared with a list of parts they had which i had really scratched my head to put together as i had so many parts. They gave me the essential parts then i had to ask for the other about quarter of the parts one by a time, "where is this" " where is that" it was if they were trying to catch me out and keep anything they could. They wouldnt give me back my heads which i supplied. They had been machined and ported etc. They also didnt give me my valve guides back or the stem seals. They also promised i could have the acl race bearings they supplied but on the day decided i couldnt so didnt get them either, another lie guys. That was bad enough until things took a turn for the worse. They wanted me to sign something saying i had collected all parts bla bla bla and other rubbish in there also. This was a total lie as we didnt collect all parts, as they refused to some back so as anyone would we refused to sign it. They didn't like this and that is when things got nasty. I think the words were "you know what you need to do guys" Our van then got blocked in, all the mechanics come outside and stood around crossed arms and intimidated us. Voices raised etc. etc. Threats were made etc. etc. They realised we were not going to budge, so they re-worded this letter and was just as bad. Once again we refused to sign. This went on for hours, and throughout most this time we were not allowed in the workshop standing out side freezing our ass off!!! Also with mechanics standing around intimidating us. Then they said that we had unload our van again or they would do it for us assuming force would of been used as they had shown their dark side. I said ok then, think we need to call the police. They were like are you sure?? i said well yeah look what is going on!!! He then stomped off for about a hour and hide and sulked!! While he was gone i told the mechanics a few home truths, they had no idea of all the facts that everything was supplied by me!! Payment was never a issue and that this has gone on for over a year and a half. Couple of the guys were shocked and turned and was on our side and said the management this isnt on and helped us work on a solution, in the end they helped to draft up a document which we were happy with, it stated we collected most of parts and some we were not getting back as it was truthful. Management said well it be on your head to the mechanics who sided with us as the owner would not be happy. In other words they wanted to pretend it never happened, pretend they never even had my car. I was also told i had to lie and not tell anyone my car had ever been there and if i did they hinted towards that there would be consequences. They had two sets of my heads, the ones i supplied on another used engine and the old ones off the old engine. They said i could use the old old ones as they were not giving back my other ones. When i got home i took a look over my heads and they look like to me that they have been purposely damaged, i have pics and will prove this. It looks like someone has took a hammer and chisel to every one of the spark holes well think its the spark holes. and it is every one on both heads, this could never happen surely unless done on purpose, they are all cracked and smashed. What else, there is lots more, briefly someone has been offered for sale by them some of my parts. They were trying to sell my parts!!! and one of those parts is one they would not return!! Got my car home took one look at it and thought no way can i see this through now. They left it in a complete mess!!! bits every where!! boxes upon boxes of parts, complete nght mare for anyone to take on. That is why most my parts are now for sale, I do love the Zed but i have lost that spark. they have ruined it for me. They also tried turning it on me and started blaming the lack of work down to payment. Funny that the original bill was about £6,000 and crept up to nearly £14,000 where i said no way!! cant pay that and they said ok £10,000 for full sponsor of the car which i didnt want as it would look rubbish covered in their stickers and it would no longer be a sleeper which i want. Also going back to payment, i gave them a deposit they asked for, they done sod all work for months then asked for more money so i gave them more than they asked as a incentive to work on my car which they still done nothing to. Does this sound like a non payer? all this time i had the money sitting in my account waiting to pay them. They pretty much said in so many words if i did tell anyone about what happened that would be their angle which believe me is a complete lie!!! I am a very honest and genuine guy who they totally took advantage of and messed about big time!!! Really is such a shame as my car would of been mega cool. I will start another thread with pics of the heads for you to come to your own conclusion, i would also like to post up some of their invoices and how much they wanted to charge for sill jobs. 2 hours to bleed the breaks??? ok then... Also another thread for my next steps. engine swap or... get another car. Either option involves selling most the parts which are in the for sale thread, most are brand spanking new. Get another car route will mean selling the entire lot. One Sad Zed Owner I for one will not be using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Rich, your link is to a thread about Rogue, the mr2 specialists. Not sure on the connection? read the 2nd paragraph again and see who did the mapping, with rogue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Rich, your link is to a thread about Rogue, the mr2 specialists. Not sure on the connection? read the 2nd paragraph again and see who did the mapping, with rogue 2nd post not paragraph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Rich, your link is to a thread about Rogue, the mr2 specialists. Not sure on the connection? read the 2nd paragraph again and see who did the mapping, with rogue 2nd post not paragraph 2nd paragrapgh 1st post and 2nd post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Rich, your link is to a thread about Rogue, the mr2 specialists. Not sure on the connection? read the 2nd paragraph again and see who did the mapping, with rogue 2nd post not paragraph 2nd paragrapgh 1st post and 2nd post 4th paragraph in the 1st post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4XNY Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 Thats disgusting to intimidate a customer like that, who supplied all the parts anyway! Im usually not a fan of like for like, but they need some intimidating themselves! I dont think a company like that deserves to survive amongst all us car modders... on all forums. Our cars are our hobbies in most cases, not just a daily driver, bit something we chuck money at because we enjoy it, for no financial gain, its something we knowingly all do. Just like someone smokes or drinks etc. We get stung enough in taxes, petrol etc etc. But still we thrive, we dont need stuff like this happening and getting us down, hence they are owed their just deserves IMO.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikarus Posted July 2, 2010 Author Share Posted July 2, 2010 Well said D4XNY, i was similarly enraged - hence starting the thread. Our forums are an ideal place to share our experiences and hopefully steer people away from bad traders. My bad Rich, read it properly this time around. I must say i'm suprised to read that about Rogue, my MR2 has been there a few times - not recently granted. They used to be very good - and their mapper, come to think of it my MR2 was mapped there twice with great results. I think all this just adds to the value of a moderated forum with approved traders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 That's horrible read, why did he not call the police? A name of that manager would be nice. What's next? Lawsuit? Start a webpage containing their address and the story. Then make sure if anyone google it that the tags rates your page higher then anything else. I'll help him if you let him know to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I believe that Thor did have a change of management at some point, so its possible that it may have been under the old regime. All I know is that I paid nearly £400 to find out my UTEC was faulty (I still have my reservations about this & am still digging), fit a sandwich plate between oil filter, fit an 02 sensor & fit an oil temp sensor They claimed that the most part of my bill was for the UTEC, something that they knew was second hand but still went ahead & fitted permanantly before even testing it. Nurrish has an even better story than me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 they used to have a good rep, but that was with the old regime, if i remember rightly when the management changed the good tuners from thor left. and since then i've not heard good things. i think most people in the know, are well aware of thor and to steer clear. the heavy handed approach sucks though, i would have had the police straight down especially as he would have all the recipts for parts etc. these days i wouldn't recccomend thor to inflate a tyre; let alone work on an engine. and if he's reading this my pm button is just at the bottom of this post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 I'd have called the police. If you're in the right in that situation then you call the police. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz0 Posted July 2, 2010 Share Posted July 2, 2010 No offence to the guy but he sound's like a bit of a dummy to be honest. He should have phoned the police several times over in his story. I also had a mental image of a telly tubby reading it to me. Maybe he need's to take it to county court. Judge Judy style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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