sasha@lazytrips Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Looked through the intrawebs and played with the search function but I am still none the wiser. What engines have been/could be fitted into a zed (+supercharged)? I have seen a few threads about cosworths, but trying to think in more general terms. There isn't any particular reason for thinking this other than this being my last day in my current job, but I guess what my question boils down to is to get some kind of list along the lines of: 1. Type of mod (eg. supercharger, engine swap - if so to which engine, etc) 2. £ wallet dent 3. Benefits From what I've seen so far, about £10k gets you 400-420hp with a supercharger, all the trimmings, fitting costs and all the auxilliary work (eg. dyno). *** Note that I am not looking to be sensible and I appreciate that for the money you could probably go buy much bigger & better things. I just want this to be reasonably hypothetical. On the other hand, I do want these to be realistic and mildly practical (ie. engines that won't explode every other day and no massive nitrous canisters instead of the passenger seat.) Also, I'm not particularly interested in things like making the car uber light, etc as style also matters I prefer to talk horses and torque rather than 0-100 speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 If you went 2nd hand kit then you could easily get reliable +400bhp out of about 5-6k with a vortech supercharger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozwald Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 There was a Zed on one of the BMI Youtube vids built by a tuning house for a middle eastern customer running an RB26 engine putting out around 600bhp, that was pretty sweet although some might consider sacreligious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha@lazytrips Posted May 14, 2010 Author Share Posted May 14, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I considered an RB30 transplant, T*** were pretty keen to do one on a Z. You could make pretty much anything fit if you throw enough cash at it The 2 I considered though were the RB & 2JZ. I'm not sure about the RB but the 2JZ isn't obdII Canbus compliant so the stock tach won't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. As they say "if you have to ask - you cant afford it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. As they say "if you have to ask - you cant afford it" Like for many of the est things in life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valveman Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. Then you have the issue of getting it insured. I doubt you would find a company that would insure such a car, and if you did it would probably cost as much as the conversion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz0 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 With old R32 GTR's getting crazy powers out of their engines, why are so many of the high power options centred around transplanting the engine? Surely you could get just as crazy power out of the 3.5litre v6? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gball1973 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 With old R32 GTR's getting crazy powers out of their engines, why are so many of the high power options centred around transplanting the engine? Surely you could get just as crazy power out of the 3.5litre v6? JUN 350Z http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=34002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz0 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 With old R32 GTR's getting crazy powers out of their engines, why are so many of the high power options centred around transplanting the engine? Surely you could get just as crazy power out of the 3.5litre v6? JUN 350Z http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=34002 Ooof! Nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gball1973 Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 Ooof! Nice Oh yeah. Pretty much useless on the road i'd think. Would be interesting to see in the metal As i said in the original thread, couldn't imagine the noise from those GT style exhausts. Think the loudest gigs i've been to so far (either Pitchshifter, Faithless, Fear Factory or Mylo) somewhat falls short of the mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I'll be running circa 500whp when it's all finished. And its gunna cost somewhere in the region of £15k Thats with the GTM twin turbo kit, fitted to a HR engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 14, 2010 Share Posted May 14, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. Then you have the issue of getting it insured. I doubt you would find a company that would insure such a car, and if you did it would probably cost as much as the conversion. Absolute nonsense There are companies who specialise in stuff like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha@lazytrips Posted May 15, 2010 Author Share Posted May 15, 2010 I'll be running circa 500whp when it's all finished. And its gunna cost somewhere in the region of £15kThats with the GTM twin turbo kit, fitted to a HR engine That sounds but is a whopping load of cash. LS9 type engines generating >500 before any tuning + installation doesn't seem very different far price-wise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Alot of people say for tuning turbo engines are better, but generally the first 20-50bhp on turbo cars is cheap but after that its just as expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokomo Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 Alot of people say for tuning turbo engines are better, but generally the first 20-50bhp on turbo cars is cheap but after that its just as expensive. indeed theres always apoint when youve got to spend big buck for the next power hike , no car comes made to make way more pwoer than its putting out. only difference is a turbo can make that first bit cheaply and thats all most people want. tbh i tihnk if you want big power 500+ then the z aint that bad a choice i mean build the block and turbo and your there ok not cheap but think what youd have to do to alot of other cars to get that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. Then you have the issue of getting it insured. I doubt you would find a company that would insure such a car, and if you did it would probably cost as much as the conversion. Absolute nonsense There are companies who specialise in stuff like that you think??? i struggled with mine.....and i havent touched the engine yet...as for the insurance price dont ask... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. Then you have the issue of getting it insured. I doubt you would find a company that would insure such a car, and if you did it would probably cost as much as the conversion. Absolute nonsense There are companies who specialise in stuff like that you think??? i struggled with mine.....and i havent touched the engine yet...as for the insurance price dont ask... I know I've insured mine with the s/c declared with no issues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 I have been looking at a 4th gen LS2 with centrifugal supercharging. Rumour has it that it could fit inside the engine bay and produce around 1k horses... As for the size of the wallet dent, I have absolutely no idea. Then you have the issue of getting it insured. I doubt you would find a company that would insure such a car, and if you did it would probably cost as much as the conversion. Absolute nonsense There are companies who specialise in stuff like that you think??? i struggled with mine.....and i havent touched the engine yet...as for the insurance price dont ask... I know I've insured mine with the s/c declared with no issues if you had a total loss claim 2 years ago you would never haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 So how does that effect other people? Obviousley there are specialists who will insure it, they just won't insure you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 So how does that effect other people? Obviousley there are specialists who will insure it, they just won't insure you you cheeky git! thing is you never know what me you he has done so saying you can insure a heavily modified car is speculation you can do it as easy as you cant do it...i thing you need to check the insurance before you start fiddling so much with a car... on another note insurance companies shouldnt be profit making organisations...insurance is obligatory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 So how does that effect other people? Obviousley there are specialists who will insure it, they just won't insure you you cheeky git! thing is you never know what me you he has done so saying you can insure a heavily modified car is speculation you can do it as easy as you cant do it...i thing you need to check the insurance before you start fiddling so much with a car... on another note insurance companies shouldnt be profit making organisations...insurance is obligatory Indeed, I checked with my insurance company before ordering my s/c to make sure they would cover it. They wouldn't so I found someone who would I think that you should get insurance money back at the end of the year if you don't have any claims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 So how does that effect other people? Obviousley there are specialists who will insure it, they just won't insure you you cheeky git! thing is you never know what me you he has done so saying you can insure a heavily modified car is speculation you can do it as easy as you cant do it...i thing you need to check the insurance before you start fiddling so much with a car... on another note insurance companies shouldnt be profit making organisations...insurance is obligatory Indeed, I checked with my insurance company before ordering my s/c to make sure they would cover it. They wouldn't so I found someone who would I think that you should get insurance money back at the end of the year if you don't have any claims +10000000000000 and be alowed to execute the CEO!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokomo Posted May 15, 2010 Share Posted May 15, 2010 how much did you get stung for extra in the end after adding the SC ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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