cookiemonster Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/apr/15/big-society-conservatives-people-power Really sums up my views on conservatives. Its between lib dem and Conservative in my area so no guessing who im going for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I'm just wondering who those who refuse to vote want to run the country? Or are they advocating anarchy? If they don't support democracy (and by not voting, how can you?) then would they prefer dictatorship or some sort of enforced communism? If no-one voted what do you think would happen - the world would suddenly turn into Pandora? Don't get me wrong, I see all the flaws in the system that are mentioned above but what is the alternative? Our lives under a capitalist democracy are pretty good compared to many in this world. There is no country that I would rather live in that doesn't run a democratic system of voting. None of the parties fit with my ideals and wants 100% (or probably even 50%) but to expect anything else is just naive. Everyone in this country has different beliefs, circumstances, requirements etc and someone who could please everyone all the time would a a deity not a primeminister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I tried voting BNP just so they would ship my dad off Voted Conservatives Put my vote in this morning, funny thing was there was an old gentleman there and he went up to the lady at the desk and said who do I have to vote for if I want Gordon Brown out? Who thinks its stupid that they do it by pencil paper system, surely this is easily manipulated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I have a postal vote and that system is a mess too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 A great day under tory rule Lamont and his assistant Cameron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Wednesday The trading losses in August and September were estimated at £800m, but the main loss to taxpayers arose because the devaluation could have made them a profit. At the end of the day they are all a bunch of ******* and i doubt life will be any better on whoever is voted in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Last voted in 1983 and soon realised that it makes NO difference who is in power. The world is dominated by economic market forces which individual states (or governments) cannot control. Voting is more an expression of frustration and/or anger with a current incumbent and the results follow quite easily predictable patterns. Perhaps with the exception of the Labour landslide in 1945. Labour will lose today (simply because we are bored of them) And because Gordon Brown is a very peculiar man, unpleasant and detached. The Tories will win but it will be very close to a hung Parliament. All the candidates are political pygmies (with the exception of Brown who has some gravitas) and I wouldn't trust them to run a tennis club, let alone a country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz0 Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Last voted in 1983 and soon realised that it makes NO difference who is in power. The world is dominated by economic market forces which individual states (or governments) cannot control. Voting is more an expression of frustration and/or anger with a current incumbent and the results follow quite easily predictable patterns. Perhaps with the exception of the Labour landslide in 1945. Labour will lose today (simply because we are bored of them) And because Gordon Brown is a very peculiar man, unpleasant and detached. The Tories will win but it will be very close to a hung Parliament. All the candidates are political pygmies (with the exception of Brown who has some gravitas) and I wouldn't trust them to run a tennis club, let alone a country. Somebody been watching Zeitgeist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Last voted in 1983 and soon realised that it makes NO difference who is in power. The world is dominated by economic market forces which individual states (or governments) cannot control. Voting is more an expression of frustration and/or anger with a current incumbent and the results follow quite easily predictable patterns. Perhaps with the exception of the Labour landslide in 1945. Labour will lose today (simply because we are bored of them) And because Gordon Brown is a very peculiar man, unpleasant and detached. The Tories will win but it will be very close to a hung Parliament. All the candidates are political pygmies (with the exception of Brown who has some gravitas) and I wouldn't trust them to run a tennis club, let alone a country. Somebody been watching Zeitgeist? Nope - never heard of it. EDIT: Just read the synopsis on Wikipedia. Wouldn't be interested. Conspiracy theorists are usually so one-eyed and their theories so ridiculous "9/11 was palnned by the CIA" that I'm not interested. I do believe in the Butterfly Effect or Chaos Theory which is much more interesting and can be used to logically point out the uselessness and impotence of central government once "something" i.e. the banking crisis, happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 just voted..... tory did my research my vote was only worth 0.66% no point voting any other way, just wanted to make sure gordon has to pack his bags and leave. he'll thank me in the long run, especially when you look at what his bum chum is making in private speaking fees and book writing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captain Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 just voted..... tory did my research my vote was only worth 0.66% no point voting any other way, just wanted to make sure gordon has to pack his bags and leave. he'll thank me in the long run, especially when you look at what his bum chum is making in private speaking fees and book writing. "bum chum" Love it. Haven't heard that for years. Are you over 40 like me Mr Biscuit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 nope i'm 28, but like to think i'm culturally well rounded we used to use it at school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSensible Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Tories cut my school milk! And Labour aren't too blame for our economic crisis, we are, the people who took out the loans, and the banks who allowed us too. (not you and me personally but society etc). Labour are attempting to dig the country out the hole as best they can, and I can only imagine the Tories will as well, but slower, while skimming a little bit off the top for the upper-class you mean the upper class that now get to pay 50% income tax and lose 40% of tha value of their homes in inheritance tax? Labour oversee the fsa and banking regulators, so they very much are to blame. They allowed 110% mortgages, and they laughed all the way to the bank given the vat they were raking in, a blind man on a galloping horse could compare the vat income to GDP and see this crisis coming a mile away, but apparently Gordon and alistair saved us all. What crock, history repeats itself. Labour wreck the finances and the Tories have to fix it. Introducing unpopular measures for just long enough for people to forget how/who got us into the mess and labour get in again. It's not the first time either. Interest rates in the 80s were a direct result of labours incompetence in the 70s but peole forget that bit. Income tax at 98% due to out if control spending by labour in the sixties, etc etc... The country needs jobs to be created, yet the Tories are the only ones stating that the ni rise should be stopped. Labours plan is to tax our way out of the hole. That simply won't work as businesses will not create as many jobs if the ni rise goes ahead, less jobs, less disposeable income and more benefits. But it appears Gordon and alistair are blind to this. Gold reserves and pensions. Its a no brainer for me. Chesterfield and Martinmac have hit the nail on the head as far as I am concerned. Pehaps the 350Z admin team should form their own party! EDIT: I would also add to that growing the public sector by over 1 million since they came to power in 1997 and then boasting they've cut unemployment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I voted Conservative. My area is Lib Dem / Conservative and I never see Labour getting in where I am at all. At the end of the day I have to look after me. My sister is a single parent so is probably far better off under labour however I have been in the 40% tax band since I was 19 so I have to look after what I make as I've worked hard to get it. Inheritance tax is a huge issue for me too - hopefully a LONG way into the future. I had a great laugh at the UKIP leaflet that dropped through the door - reduce North Sea Oil Tax by 50% to encourage investment and jobs in Aberdeen and repair the local roads. They didn't say how they would fund these things though..... I totally agree that if you waive the right to vote then you waive the right to complain. I have complained about this government and I'm sure I'll complain about the next. I voted so it's my right to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 complain away my Scottish brethren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 ............however I have been in the 40% tax band since I was 19 so I have to look after what I make as I've worked hard to get it .......... I wonder how many members checked what job you do after that post Stew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 ............however I have been in the 40% tax band since I was 19 so I have to look after what I make as I've worked hard to get it .......... I wonder how many members checked what job you do after that post Stew he's a porn star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 ............however I have been in the 40% tax band since I was 19 so I have to look after what I make as I've worked hard to get it .......... I wonder how many members checked what job you do after that post Stew Dont you know Stews a Pimp daddy, but Louis (Sl114) hasnt been earning him a lot lately Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Just a few stories from our little local village poling place. One friend turned up to vote and they had him down as aleady voted. Another friend has proxy votes for two frineds who are away, they sent the proxy forms to the friends house. Another guy turned up from a vilage 20 miles away as they had his form wrong. Another mate of mine got two forms for two different constituencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Just a few stories from our little local village poling place. One friend turned up to vote and they had him down as aleady voted. Another friend has proxy votes for two frineds who are away, they sent the proxy forms to the friends house. Another guy turned up from a vilage 20 miles away as they had his form wrong. Another mate of mine got two forms for two different constituencies. i still think gordon is frantically filling in forms in his office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Just a few stories from our little local village poling place. One friend turned up to vote and they had him down as aleady voted. Another friend has proxy votes for two frineds who are away, they sent the proxy forms to the friends house. Another guy turned up from a vilage 20 miles away as they had his form wrong. Another mate of mine got two forms for two different constituencies. AWESOME! Shocking organisation! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 I think he may be too busy packing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Just a few stories from our little local village poling place. One friend turned up to vote and they had him down as aleady voted. Another friend has proxy votes for two frineds who are away, they sent the proxy forms to the friends house. Another guy turned up from a vilage 20 miles away as they had his form wrong. Another mate of mine got two forms for two different constituencies. This sounds like it should be a story on the LAGOS thread in the Green Room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 Its not very reassuring is it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The exit pols are out, thats a major shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted May 6, 2010 Share Posted May 6, 2010 The exit pols are out, thats a major shock. be interested to see how right they are. only 20 seats short of a majority Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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