srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Right having decided on the Vortech V3 (self lubricating) charger (tuner kit) I'm now having to look into what I need to get it going. What is the bare minumum i would need to get going? -600cc Injectors -Uprev -Fuel Pump ............ R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 the supercharger its self is a good item to have as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 Take it you didn't read the top line R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 I made a list somewhere for it, i think its in nurrishes thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Fuel Return System (or is it included in the kit?) Guages and pods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Heres what i initially ordered Vortech V-3 self contained supercharger with SI trim impeller upgrade UTEC EMS with MAP sensor Deatschwerks 600cc injectors Monster 24x12x4" Core Intercooler Vortech Race Bypass valve Walbro 255 Fuel Pump Plenum Spacer 100cell Race Cats AAM Stage 1 Fuel Return System Inc Fuel Rails Hel Oil Cooler Spark Plugs Boost Gauge AEM wideband Gauge Motul Oil Oil Filter Grill Mesh Mishimoto Radiator AAM Throttle Body Spacer AAM Oil Pan Spacer Oil Catch Can Breather Filter Dual Exhaust 10l of Motul Radiator Fluid But expect things to change and be added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 Geez thats alot of bits Whats the reason for the oil cooler given that the v3 has a self enclosed lubricator? R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Geez thats alot of bits Whats the reason for the oil cooler given that the v3 has a self enclosed lubricator? R Engine oil cooler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 Geez thats alot of bits Whats the reason for the oil cooler given that the v3 has a self enclosed lubricator? R Engine oil cooler Yeah but i though the point of that was for when you were tapped into the sump to lubricate the SC, the cooler would take the excess heat away. Just been reading the my350z guide and trying to get my head round things R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The oil contained in the s/c is just to keep the charger lubricated.... The tapping of the oil sump was for the v2 as it wasn't self contained. The oil cooler is totally separate for the charger....for instance track N/A cars can have oil coolers....just keeps the oil cooler causing less risk to the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 The oil contained in the s/c is just to keep the charger lubricated.... The tapping of the oil sump was for the v2 as it wasn't self contained. The oil cooler is totally separate for the charger....for instance track N/A cars can have oil coolers....just keeps the oil cooler causing less risk to the engine Ah I see thanks for clearing that up I wasn't sure if it was used as a lube oil cooler for the charger or not. Never done a project like this before but since I work with compressors (all be it 300 bar ones ) it should be fairly staright forward when I have all the bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Suprised nobody asked whats included in the kit?! So thats my question. Depending on whats in it will answer your Q Go 550cc and you wont need a fuel return system... or pump... what pulley system are you getting? (same explosive powers as nurrish or one set lower?) A Well done for taking the plunge... still waiting for Nurrish to post photos to me... he probably forgot! (I can't look at mine since It's in the workshop... so not just lazy!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The reason for a RFS is just a safety net....the last thing you want to happen is to starve the engine of fuel mid boost RFS keeps the fuel flowing allowing the injectors to squirt however much they need I suggest you read the vortech thread on my350z as it holds a load of answer... Andlid: tonight is the night mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The reason for a RFS is just a safety net....the last thing you want to happen is to starve the engine of fuel mid boost RFS keeps the fuel flowing allowing the injectors to squirt however much they need I suggest you read the vortech thread on my350z as it holds a load of answer... Andlid: tonight is the night mate (I'll be once FI'd based on cost per hp ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 The kit contains: * Flow-tested cast aluminum and/or urethane air discharge tubing * Intercooler * Compressor bypass valve * OEM-style, heat-treated cast 356 aluminum mounting brackets * Supercharger drive pulley * Integrated belt tensioner * Premium drive belt * Stainless steel clamps * Heavy-duty mounting hardware Thats your lot R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Does it come with an intercooler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 Oh yeah it comes with a charge cooler. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 According to the my350z site the system can run fine on everything stock maybe bar bigger injectors and an ECU. No sure how safe i would feel about running 400bhp on stock coolers/fuel rails etc. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Oh yeah it comes with a charge cooler. R Your probably in the best position to do the install now with people like my self having done so and can be here to help you through.... I had to struggle through with limited help at hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nurrish Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 According to the my350z site the system can run fine on everything stock maybe bar bigger injectors and an ECU. No sure how safe i would feel about running 400bhp on stock coolers/fuel rails etc. R If you stick with the 3.33 pulley you will have no problems.....you wont be seeing 400 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 The kit contains: * Flow-tested cast aluminum and/or urethane air discharge tubing * Compressor bypass valve * OEM-style, heat-treated cast 356 aluminum mounting brackets * Supercharger drive pulley * Integrated belt tensioner * Premium drive belt * Stainless steel clamps * Heavy-duty mounting hardware Thats your lot R No supercharger in that list! Lol So not sure you actually need any injectors either! there has been nice to haves mentioned above... but not sure you actually need any of it to make the kit work bar a retune! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Dont know about the DE engine, but having spoke to Mark at Abbey, the HR engine can run FI on the OEM ECU following an UpRev mapping session. It's gunna save me a few quid, so may do the same for you. Andlid - the thing about the nice-to-haves is that whilst they aint essential, they will prolong the longevity and reliabilty of the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 All the future fi boys reading this topic :-)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srobrien Posted April 27, 2010 Author Share Posted April 27, 2010 If you stick with the 3.33 pulley you will have no problems.....you wont be seeing 400 though Yeah but at least its a start, get the kit on, start making some HP then upgrade as the cash comes in. Dont know about the DE engine, but having spoke to Mark at Abbey, the HR engine can run FI on the OEM ECU following an UpRev mapping session. It's gunna save me a few quid, so may do the same for you. Yeah I was considering this as an option, I could perhaps send my ECU down to Abbey and have them put on a safe map long enough for me to make it down to them for a decent tune. Here is an interesting bit from my350z, dunno how accurate but its interesting@ 320-335 whp, stock vortech tune with stock pulley and stock everything else on car (stock exhaust, cats, etc) 340-350 whp tuned 350-370 whp add exhaust, HF cats, plenum, and tuning 370-390 whp add 3.12 pulley and tuning 380-400 whp add headers and/or test pipes, and tuning 390-420 whp add 2.87 pulley and tuning 420-440 whp add cams and tuning 440-475 whp add water/meth injection, more timing, at least half race gas (96 octane or higher) and tuned 470-510 whp switch to Si or T-trim blower, and tuning 500+ whp (in theory) built engine with stroker kit, ported heads, compression ratio somewhat high around 9.5-10:1 raise the redline slightly, full race gas, and tuningtorque numbers are generally 70-90 less than the peak whp numbers R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 27, 2010 Share Posted April 27, 2010 Dont know about the DE engine, but having spoke to Mark at Abbey, the HR engine can run FI on the OEM ECU following an UpRev mapping session. It's gunna save me a few quid, so may do the same for you. Andlid - the thing about the nice-to-haves is that whilst they aint essential, they will prolong the longevity and reliabilty of the build. Lexx agreed on that but not what the op asked for ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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