bodyboarder Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Hi everyone, hope your all ok. Just a quick one really, as some of you are aware i am looking for a nice zed at the moment, but i am wandering weather to spend a little more and get the 313 bhp car rather than the 296bhp. What are peoples thoughts on this , are they worth spending another 1500 on ? I am looking at 06 plate zeds which all seem to be around 15k with 20-30k miles on, if i bought one of these i would want an exhaust and remap to try and get a few more bhp out of it, but would i be better off getting a 313 and just stick some pop chargers on there for a bit of extra noise ( as i do love the sound of them ! ) Pros for the 06 would be - Less to buy- could mod as would be out of warrenty Cons for 06 would be - No warrenty- a little older- less power 07 plate pros- warrenty-more power 07 plate cons - more money What do people think ? Also the car will only be doing 2-4k a year, cheer for your help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Why do you want power ? .......... torque is what you need for normal 'spirited' driving on the road ....... up to 'allowable' speeds anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyboarder Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Ya i see what you mean but are they better cars than the 06 plates ? Did nissan change anything on them other than the engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Good question. I've never driven a 313 BHP version but more than happy with the earliest model (the 276). Sounds to me like your into modding in which case you may as well free up the cash by getting a good quality older model. Overall the differences in terms of straight line speed is apparently very small (how often are you really going to need the extra power and how much of it is pub talk?). Depends what your plans are with the zed. I knew I wanted an extremely well looked after example and knew I wanted to place my mark on it through modding (it gets very expensive as you probably know). Would I tell myself a year ago that I should hold out for a more powerful younger model? No. I saved a lot of cash and got the perfect example after waiting a very long time. Zeds are all about noise and good looks. If you want raw power, I suggest and Evo or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gervais Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Got a years warranty from a Nissan dealer on my 54 plate, so I would imagine if you bought one from a dealer you would get one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Ya i see what you mean but are they better cars than the 06 plates ? Did nissan change anything on them other than the engine? Slightly better plastic interior (better feel to it, but nothing drastic like a sudden german car interior worthy of the extra cash) and a few changes to the button layouts. Has LEDs as well (which can be brought separately from ZManAlex on here). I have the older model and the interior is slightly different, yet I totally changed it using carbon parts inside. The 313 BHP model also has a bulge in the bonnet rather than a slight indent. I prefer the older looking bonnet (looks more sporty than muscle car like the newest version). All the questions have been asked before - try searching the FAQs section. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyboarder Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Not looking at one from a stealer , but could get a warrenty from someone like warrenty direct, but then again i will only be doing 200-300 miles a month so wander if its even worth worrying about. So i am guessing that the 313 are not worth the extra money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbiscuit Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 as the models go up so does the weight. abbey motorsport have found that the most gains can be got out of the 276 version which also after some good choice mods actually produces more torque than a 313 with mods and a tune. as a stock car difference between 276 -313 is aparently noticable when driving, but between the 296 and the 313 i'm unsure. if you put 3 stock zeds on the track the difference between them is about a gnats testicle (very slight) all are good cars, just find the best example the rest will come. if you into moddibg i'd say go for the 276 as there are more engine parts available more choice on aftermarket parts, (but that will change as time goes on) up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 If you buy from someone on here you will have the benefit of buying a known car .... and there are quite a few to choose from at the moment ........ can't go wrong if you keep it 'in house' and take your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anubis Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Not looking at one from a stealer , but could get a warrenty from someone like warrenty direct, but then again i will only be doing 200-300 miles a month so wander if its even worth worrying about. So i am guessing that the 313 are not worth the extra money. I wouldn't worry about it mate. If you find yourself a well looked after example then it should be pretty solid. I've never heard of any engine issues with them (they're bullet proof) and if something does go wrong, I very much doubt you'll be spending an extra £2k+ on fixing it (the same cash you decided to spend on the newest model). There are some nice cars that go for sale on here by us enthusiasts that totally cherish them. It's just a matter of keeping an eye out for the right one (patience is your friend). I got mine from a fellow enthusiast and nothing has gone wrong so far. No warranty needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 if you put 3 stock zeds on the track the difference between them is about a gnats testicle (very slight) difference between the three depends more on the drivers' balls than a gnat's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 This topic was already covered a while back but I would go for the 313 - the slight reworking of the engine has given it more lower down torque and the fuel economy is a lot better in my view, plus they seem to sounds louder (probably because of the twin air intakes) The '06 cars are probably a very close call though but I am biased Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyboarder Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Thanks . Now just have to wait for the right one.... i hate waiting! Found a nice one on autotrader for 15700, 06 plate 22k 1 owner, GM , sat nav,gt pack and rays. Sound about right ? Would do a link but i climb trees for a living and cant use a computer or spelll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyboarder Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Ya still cant believe i get paid to climb trees, getting a bit old for it now though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demolition49 Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 I always thought the 07 had more hp and torque than the 06, but the 02-05 had more torque? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmJak Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Wish I got paid to climb trees! Mind you, I still blush when I get my paycheck. . . Sounds like the one you found will be good. I've heard the 07 models have lighter steering and clutch, might be worth test driving both to see if it makes enough difference to you. £1500 doesn't sound like much difference to me tho, I'd prob opt for a newer model and save the money you would have used for a remap etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyboarder Posted February 24, 2010 Author Share Posted February 24, 2010 Evo mag states- 276bhp 268lbft - 296bhp 260lbft - 309bhp 264lbft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Evo mag states- 276bhp 268lbft - 296bhp 260lbft - 309bhp 264lbft sounds about right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetZed Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Also remember that the newer (post 06) models have road tax of £440 as opposed to £215 for the pre 06 ones... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSensible Posted February 24, 2010 Share Posted February 24, 2010 Ya i see what you mean but are they better cars than the 06 plates ? Did nissan change anything on them other than the engine? Slightly better plastic interior (better feel to it, but nothing drastic like a sudden german car interior worthy of the extra cash) and a few changes to the button layouts. Has LEDs as well (which can be brought separately from ZManAlex on here). I have the older model and the interior is slightly different, yet I totally changed it using carbon parts inside. The 313 BHP model also has a bulge in the bonnet rather than a slight indent. I prefer the older looking bonnet (looks more sporty than muscle car like the newest version). All the questions have been asked before - try searching the FAQs section. No, the 06 also has the facelift and upgraded interior, lights etc. The only cosmetic difference between a MY06 and a MY07 is the bonnet bulge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number86 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 I've got an 06, and I say get the 07. When I looked late last year the premium over the 06 was AT LEAST £2500. Which I didn't quite think was worth it, as the 06 was at the upper end of my budget anyway. If it's only 1500 or so, I'd say get the 07. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatboy Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 What do you drive at the moment? If you are coming from a fiesta or something then all versions are going to feel seriously quick. The extra BHP really won't make that much difference on the road I suspect, although you might prefer the style of the different engines... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff-r Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 All about the buldge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich5259 Posted February 25, 2010 Share Posted February 25, 2010 All about the buldge! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodyboarder Posted February 25, 2010 Author Share Posted February 25, 2010 I have just sold my bmw 330 m sport, befor that s2000, clio cup,cupra r, ............ and so on. I have found a lovely " buldge" 57 plate, 17k silver, sat nav, gt and rays.... 16 grand ! Sound exactly what i want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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