tanith Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Hi all, Does anyone have any info or experience on the following? I am considering sticking a V8 of some form into a zed and just wanted to gather your thoughts on it and what exactly needs to be budgeted for/upgraded to handle the engine? The car would be for road use (daily driver), shows, meets and possibly the odd santa pod or track day. I think the LS1/2 engine swap would suit these uses fine, as they are built to be reliable, servicing surely can't be that much more expensive and nor would running costs (with the exception of insurance). So far, I have the following info....which is enough to make most men get excited? LS2 engine swap into zed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1ogVIvMocQ LS1 engine swap into zed: http://www.britishamericanengines.co.uk ... efault.asp An example of a complete turnkey LS2 fuel injected engine cost is as follows:- New crate LS2 engine (400 bhp) Ancillaries ECM system Total cost £6040 plus vat. I am guessing that with the above engine package, I would need to budget for upgrading the flywheel/clutch combo, probably upgrade the suspension to handle the extra weight? Gearbox? Also, the specialist fitting time/labour for this. ......could get expensive, so want to just get an opinion on what work/parts would be required. I've been reading Nurrish's supercharger thread with great interest, but I have my heart set on a V8... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I have a feeling that a mate of R35LEE was doing a V8 conversion..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanith Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 I have been recommended 2 specialist fitters for LS1/2/etc work by driftworks members and also been recommended Abbey motorsports by somebody else, so will get some quotes over the weekend from them. Does R35LEE visit this forum often? Worth sending him a PM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 videos but its ok, i will watch them again im sure this is mega money to do but would be worth every penny. good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KJ. Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Awesome videos My mate has put an LS2 in is RX-7... I've been in some seriously quick cars (tuned up & supercars) but that thing is rediculous!!! He's been trying to convince me to do the same to my Z, so watching videos like that are potentially very damaging to my wallet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rossz1 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 omg i didnt no this was possible..... i love the noise of a V8. epsecially the first video when it seems to be sort of struggling on tickover...... just like the shelby in gone in 60 seconds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanith Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 Awesome videos My mate has put an LS2 in is RX-7... I've been in some seriously quick cars (tuned up & supercars) but that thing is rediculous!!! He's been trying to convince me to do the same to my Z, so watching videos like that are potentially very damaging to my wallet! My friend has an RX7 and we were going to make an FD LS1 conversion, but now I have seen it in a zed..... I am hoping it's going to be below the £10k mark, but not sure whether I need to uprate other components, might give zedmanalex a call to see what his thoughts are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSensible Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Wow, I'll be watching this with great interest. Do you reckon you'd get much for your old engine? Would help offset quite a bit of the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokomo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 ooooooooorrrrr dont put american POS enigne in the Z , ls1 350bhp froma 5.7l , ls2 400bhp form a 6.0l ! please dont ruin the car by doing this ! (INMHO) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanith Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 ooooooooorrrrr dont put american POS enigne in the Z , ls1 350bhp froma 5.7l , ls2 400bhp form a 6.0l !please dont ruin the car by doing this ! (INMHO) But you can easily get much more power from these engines and there is also enough room for a blower if you ever want to take it to the next level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanith Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 Wow, I'll be watching this with great interest. Do you reckon you'd get much for your old engine? Would help offset quite a bit of the cost. I haven't even considered selling my old engine to be honest, I just had some money to blow on upgrading and had this sudden urge to explore this route Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 There must be plenty of recon small block chevy engines out there or build one up yourself Oh ......and you are very to the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Wow, I'll be watching this with great interest. Do you reckon you'd get much for your old engine? Would help offset quite a bit of the cost. I haven't even considered selling my old engine to be honest, I just had some money to blow on upgrading and had this sudden urge to explore this route If you decide to sell your old block I might be interested Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 wow it would be great to know how you continue on this and overall costs involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 ooooooooorrrrr dont put american POS enigne in the Z , ls1 350bhp froma 5.7l , ls2 400bhp form a 6.0l !please dont ruin the car by doing this ! (INMHO) How is more power and waaaaaaay more torque from an NA lump with a ridiculous amount of tuning potential with very similar rev ranges as stock 'ruining' the car? Those LS engines are far better than the VQ35DE as far as performance goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokomo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 just my view , not fan of big huuge american engines that produce in stock form very little power per litre 6.0l wiht 400 bhp equates to 67ishbhp/L vs the vq35de of 80 or 90+ from an HR. plus such abig block is gonna weigh the front down ! not somthing i would ever consider doing to car but it IS somthing thats done , not kocking it if you want massive NA power its the only way to go. again all just an opinion , if someone does it the guts to you it wil be on torquey beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Nissan should have put an engine with more grunt in the 350Z to start with could have been a true muscle car LS-1-2 engines are pretty easy to get hold of and can be picked up for as little as 1K, its just mating a suitable box and propshaft, along with the electrics thats a PITA. By the sound of it, the engine in the clip is not std either. I think it a great idea, i think my ultimate stealth car would be a Skyline 350GT with a supercharged LS-1 around 600BHP with torque to match Oh! and the LS-1 weighs in at 430lbs, the VQ35DE comes in at 329lbs so not a vast difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokomo Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 i stand corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Oh! and the LS-1 weighs in at 430lbs, the VQ35DE comes in at 329lbs so not a vast difference. not a vast difference, its a quarter lighter!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Oh! and the LS-1 weighs in at 430lbs, the VQ35DE comes in at 329lbs so not a vast difference. not a vast difference, its a quarter lighter!!! In the overall scheme of an engine swap the extra 100lbs probably equates to carrying a passenger all the time, as the weight of the engine is pretty far back, so with suitable springs/dampers on the front and a decent corner weight setup i cant see a big problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Oh! and the LS-1 weighs in at 430lbs, the VQ35DE comes in at 329lbs so not a vast difference. not a vast difference, its a quarter lighter!!! In the overall scheme of an engine swap the extra 100lbs probably equates to carrying a passenger all the time, as the weight of the engine is pretty far back, so with suitable springs/dampers on the front and a decent corner weight setup i cant see a big problem. you try and shed 100lb elsewhere in the zed. You will struggle. if it doesn't make any difference why not have passengers in all racing cars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tanith Posted February 12, 2010 Author Share Posted February 12, 2010 Well, just take out spare wheel and passenger seat...should help, but weight isn't really what I am getting at. I am more interested in the noise and torque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Oh! and the LS-1 weighs in at 430lbs, the VQ35DE comes in at 329lbs so not a vast difference. not a vast difference, its a quarter lighter!!! In the overall scheme of an engine swap the extra 100lbs probably equates to carrying a passenger all the time, as the weight of the engine is pretty far back, so with suitable springs/dampers on the front and a decent corner weight setup i cant see a big problem. you try and shed 100lb elsewhere in the zed. You will struggle. if it doesn't make any difference why not have passengers in all racing cars. Why not indeed! But then who was talking about racing cars? I thought we where talking about weight distribution, and the difference the extra 100lbs would make to that, if its power to weight, then i think the extra 100 odd BHP and the more important 200 odd ft lb of torque would more than make up for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookiemonster Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Think what Mike was saying Tricky is that 100lbs is a fair difference between the engines, not that the performance wouldnt be worthwhile. Tanith how come your not going for a twin turbo setup? Obviously the V8 will sound But is it really worth it when a twin turbo will give you the same, if not better, performance for minimal effort Seems a lot of hassle for limited gains over FI. IMHO obviously. If its the challenge factor and individualism it wil bring then fair play too you, its going to be one hell of a mean sounding zed Best of luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 Oh! and the LS-1 weighs in at 430lbs, the VQ35DE comes in at 329lbs so not a vast difference. not a vast difference, its a quarter lighter!!! In the overall scheme of an engine swap the extra 100lbs probably equates to carrying a passenger all the time, as the weight of the engine is pretty far back, so with suitable springs/dampers on the front and a decent corner weight setup i cant see a big problem. you try and shed 100lb elsewhere in the zed. You will struggle. if it doesn't make any difference why not have passengers in all racing cars. Why not indeed! But then who was talking about racing cars? I thought we where talking about weight distribution, and the difference the extra 100lbs would make to that, if its power to weight, then i think the extra 100 odd BHP and the more important 200 odd ft lb of torque would more than make up for it it equates to the same thing, power to weight ratio. I explained the racing car angle for you to try and simply understand. Clearly you haven't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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