rtbiscuit Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 bridgestones are awesome tyres in the dry and i would reccomend them as a dry track tyre. but in the wet they don't heat up well and stay slippery. the only benefit of them in the wet is that although they slip, they still stay very progressive and easy to adjust. swapped to the vred's and they stick alot better and the grip in the wet is so much better, and they are still very progressive. when i had the stones fitted my rears used to slid slightly all the time if you pulled away quickly or the esp would kick in and kill the power so you'd have nothing to pull out on.which is slightly un nerving when pulling in to small gaps in busy traffic. since swapping the tyres not had these problems. what tread depth are you down too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rich5259 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 wet = ondry = off alot of the time tbh i would love to actually have a count of the number of people who have binned the car with it on and with it off i think it'll look like: with on: none with off: Lots just dont raise my insurance premium i would trust alex to have it off though infact i would pay to be a passenger IIRC Madmarky had it ON when he had his incident on the way back from Bluewater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik54 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Aha!!! With Bridgestones mine used to twitch a lot and still slide but since I fitted Falkens it's been super Come to think of it - since the Toyos went on, tonight was first time the ESP has needed to kick in...............and boy did it NEED to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Yer, i read Falkens or Toyo's. Dont want to turn this into a tyre thread as i am sure i could search that but whats the consensus on these two makes ? Is there a preference ? Dam i just turned this into a tyre thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 wet = ondry = off alot of the time tbh i would love to actually have a count of the number of people who have binned the car with it on and with it off i think it'll look like: with on: none with off: Lots just dont raise my insurance premium i would trust alex to have it off though infact i would pay to be a passenger IIRC Mad marky had it ON when he had his incident on the way back from Bluewater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 wet = ondry = off alot of the time tbh i would love to actually have a count of the number of people who have binned the car with it on and with it off i think it'll look like: with on: none with off: Lots just dont raise my insurance premium i would trust alex to have it off though infact i would pay to be a passenger IIRC Mad marky had it ON when he had his incident on the way back from Bluewater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanS16 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Mine's only come on a handfull of times - its just a wee judder and loss of power - there's one spot on my daily drive - basically a complete switchback which I take at about 5mph - now its the only place where the ESP gets switched off as a matter of course.........otherwise it is only off when its dry and the tyres are warm - although I did have my first true moment tonight when I hit a roundabout and a pile of leaves at the same time and was going far too fast - thankfully the ESP did its job and I carried on with a combination of & Thats the same with me, theres a 'spot' on my way to work that knocks the TCS on - I don't even know why either Oh, and I always have it off in the snow or your can't drive it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 I have 7mm on the back and 3.5mm on the front Rich. its defo a tyre issue, like i said i was more concerned with the agressive kick in of the esp but this seem to be the norm which i guess is good. And as far as ins premiums go Husky, dont even get me going on that one i pay too much for my age, zero points, zero calims etc etc this goverment can kiss my £££ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Mine comes on a lot when I'm angry or hungry. I dunno why but when I'm either of the above it affects my driving style.. Never felt the need to turn it off tho, I think it must be there for a reason, I've grown quite fond of my zed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT4 Zed Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Yer, i read Falkens or Toyo's. Dont want to turn this into a tyre thread as i am sure i could search that but whats the consensus on these two makes ? Is there a preference ? Dam i just turned this into a tyre thread Mate, like said before in this thread, if your light comes on too often then it's either your tyres, suspension, geometry or even driving style that is the cause. go methodically through each variable ESP off or on is a matter of choice rather than consensus On track i have it off but most fast road work ON and unless i need to show boat and hang out the a--e a bit Tyres are the most important upgrades on the zed for fast road and to that add suspension and brakes if you do track work and your zed will be transformed! But either way the right tyre pressures and geometry is a must Finally, always go for the best on those items mentioned if you can because that's what you get! so for me its Michelin's PS2s everytime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D4XNY Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Sorry for my naivity, but i have "felt" it come on in the past, but is there any other indicator to let you know the ESP has kicked in? Does a light come on, or do you just feel a loss in power, and the wheels gain traction? (Mine is always switched on by the way) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik54 Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Mine comes on a lot when I'm angry or hungry. I dunno why but when I'm either of the above it affects my driving style.. Never felt the need to turn it off tho, I think it must be there for a reason, I've grown quite fond of my zed Hungry? Just go back to the fags Tarmac - it'll be easier on the car and your stomach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Thanks GT4 Zed, and thanks to everyone else for the insight. I will defo be looking at the tyre issue as the fronts are low and D4XNY, i get a light come on too when the ESP kicks in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Sorry for my naivity, but i have "felt" it come on in the past, but is there any other indicator to let you know the ESP has kicked in? Does a light come on, or do you just feel a loss in power, and the wheels gain traction? (Mine is always switched on by the way) yes the flashing light. just do a silly chav start and youll see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Mine comes on a lot when I'm angry or hungry. I dunno why but when I'm either of the above it affects my driving style.. Never felt the need to turn it off tho, I think it must be there for a reason, I've grown quite fond of my zed I laughed ALOT at that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alessandro Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Still a RWD newbie so always on, might try next summer to switch it off from time to time, plus at the moment I find it really difficult to not floor it where i can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 SimonD totalled his car with the ESP off and then blamed it on a mysterious oil patch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 there's always a mystery diesel spill around those times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husky Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Ive been through a big diesel spill before and it makes me laugh when people say thats what it is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexZ Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 As above, i'm new to the hole rwd thing and I keep mine on all the time. I did turn it off in the wet on the first day I picked her up. I wheel span from the middle of the intersection onto my estate, into seconds gear past the Fire Station Headquarters then wanted my mum and some toilet roll. The switch have never been touched again. Alexz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 there's always a mystery diesel spill around those times! Loved how he refused to confirm or deny whether the ESP was on or off though, like that wasn't confirmation enough in itself...... Moral of the story, keep it on if you'd like your insurance company to pick up the bill once you realise that your not Ken Block...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35LEE Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 Mine is off most of the time but left on when doing the slow drive into work on a morning. I think most people just leave it on, which is best while getting use to a RWD car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete350z Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 I always have mine off !! I have done for the last 2 and a half years since I bought the car. I totally trust my instincts over the computer every day of the week, at least if i crash the car i can blame my lack of talent and not blame the ecu's lack of talent. Cheers, Pete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steady Zeddy Posted November 2, 2009 Share Posted November 2, 2009 ..... car has just had Gear and diff oils done ......... What diff are you running that you had to change the oil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vale Posted November 2, 2009 Author Share Posted November 2, 2009 Just the OEM one mate, my zed just reached 50k so thought i would do gear and diff for peice of mind i also got the Denso plugs fitted as per forum advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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