Greekman Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 As most of you know i have got a 309 roadster....with a nismo exhaust and nismo dual intakes.... But i need 20-30bhp (could do with 100bhp but i wont go FI yet as i may be getting a GTR from next year)... So the plan is to get the best after market ecu....which i think is the haltech platinum... And i would appreciate your help on where to buy it from, how much and where to go in england to have it fitted... any other mod you guys think would help with performance??? mods that cost lets say 500quid and give 2bhp should be out of the question unless they can make the torque curve fatter than an old greek lady's ass!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You could check out the UTEC.... one for sale on here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 You could check out the UTEC.... one for sale on here! FI will be on the plans eventually (end of next year if all ok) and i will be needing the haltech then??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Depends on what your going withm some come with EMS some dont and some come with EMS that needs upgrading! Info here Turbo XS UTEC This is going to be the engine managemen to turn Z tuning around forever! Plug and play engine management that retains the factory ecu for things like cold start, idle up with air conditioning, cruise control, VDC, and traction control. However, this unit will allow full user control over the fuel and timing curves. In basic form it allows control over Fuel and Ignition Timing. Each control gives you 250 rpm resolution from 500 rpm to revlimit with over 10 different load sitesPlus, it is fully compliant with the OBD2 diagnostic software, so inspections are no problem. Ignition Timing Control The 350Z UTEC has its own injector and coil drivers. Unlike a pure piggyback, the 350Z UTEC actually drives the car. When you decide that you want to run 10 degrees of timing advance at 4000rpm, the UTEC fires the coils at 10 degrees BTDC. This level of timing control is impossible with a pure piggyback. Most piggybacks "control" ignition timing by modifying the crankshaft and camshaft position sensor signals before they enter the ECU. You don't actually program a timing value but a timing offset value (positive or negative) that is than applied to the timing that the ECU wants to run. That works fine in a car with a static, unchanging timing map. Unfortunately, today's cars have highly variable ignition timing maps. So you are applying a static offset value to a changing timing map. The result is, you never actually know what timing you will run. The UTEC eliminates the guess work and gives you the control you need without making you jump though hoops. Convenience The UTEC has the ability to hold 5 different user definable map groups. Each map group can contain a different fuel, ignition timing, and boost map. All of these selections are available at the flick of a switch. One of the key benefits to this system is the ability to run different mapping strategies for different gas conditions. Typically, you'll setup your primary "daily driving" map in position 1. You can then use maps 2-5 for various levels of boost or for optimizing the motor to run on race fuel. The UTEC allows you the flexibility to take advantage of every situation. Usability The UTEC software is incredibly easy to use. It is engineered for compatibility with almost every laptop or PDA you can find. All you need is a spare communications port and windows 3.1 or higher. Once connected to the UTEC, the text menus are simple to understand and easy to navigate. All key strokes and their features are clearly explained on every UTEC screen. Editing the maps on the UTEC is as simple a reading the directions at the bottom of your screen. This ECU will not take you months of study just to learn to move around in the software. It lets you get down to the business of tuning your car quickly and efficiently. In fact, after a just a few uses making changes will becomes second nature. Datalogging Modifying your engine's performance requires the proper information. The UTEC provides that information in spades. You don't need a second laptop or an OBD2 logger system to know what's going on with your motor. The UTEC provides all the key parameters in its own simple to use logging interface With the addition of our TXS Tuner, the UTEC will even give you your air fuel ratio in the above log using a true wideband air fuel sensor. Armed with this information, you can tune your car with complete confidence. Ease of Installation Installing the UTEC should take an average enthusiast less then 30 minutes of work using only common hand tools. It comes with a highly detailed instruction manual that will walk you though the process and have you back on the road as quickly as possible. It is important to note that while using the UTEC is easy, the power and control it gives you takes some skill to harness. The UTEC is a powerful tool. To get the most out of it, you must spend time learning the basics of engine management. Installing the UTEC and learning the interface is far easier then the process of actually learning to tune an engine. The 350Z UTEC is shipped with a base map. This base map is meant a starting place. You can plug it in and run this map and expect some decent gains over the stock ECU. However, there is quite a bit of horsepower left for a skilled tuner to extract. There is no "one size fits all" when it comes to engine tuning. Our experience with cars from stock to 500whp has taught us that you will always benefit from tuning your car for your modifications. Don't let the ease of install fool you, this is a serious tool for serious users. Connectivity: By teaming the UTEC with Turbo XS's Tuner, you are also able to datalog with a wideband 02 sensor in real time, and have your UTEC tunes based off of a real wideband 02 - just like the pro tuners use! Upgradable software: as enhancements are made to the TurboXS UTEC software, updates will be posted on TurboXS's website for immediate download. And info from the TurboXS website listing the maps that are available right now for NA and the ones they have for Turbo in the future. http://www.turboxs.com/utec350zupdate.htm Of course you will still need a good tuner to get some more out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 You could check out the UTEC.... one for sale on here! FI will be on the plans eventually (end of next year if all ok) and i will be needing the haltech then??? UTEC will be just as good, quite tempted to buy Marks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 hasn't Pingu2 got a haltech also andid. Plenty of info here but of course you knew that after using the search button Greekman viewtopic.php?f=25&t=16816&hilit=haltech&start=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Thanks 3FIDDYZ for the info... It appears that andid had probs with the haltech after all??? So what price would i be talking about? It looks like haltech could be anything from £1000 bto £1400ish??? do you know who would do the tuning in the UK??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Anybody??? 3FIDDYZ you v got pm! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Hi Mate, sorry I didnt come back, I was trying to research your question and I had an offer I couldnt turn down... If you want to know about haltech, speak to TDI as they are a reseller and mapper. If you want to talk about utec speak to thor racing. Also Mark at Abbey Motorsport used to do haltech but dosnt now... perhaps a call to him for a chat will tell you more about why and what other routed are available... M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 25, 2009 Author Share Posted October 25, 2009 Hi Mate, sorry I didnt come back, I was trying to research your question and I had an offer I couldnt turn down... If you want to know about haltech, speak to TDI as they are a reseller and mapper. If you want to talk about utec speak to thor racing. Also Mark at Abbey Motorsport used to do haltech but dosnt now... perhaps a call to him for a chat will tell you more about why and what other routed are available... M No worries m8. cheers for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam@Z1auto.com Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 a 309 would be what model year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 a 309 would be what model year? MY2007 Adam. The last revision with the hump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam@Z1auto.com Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 ah then unfortunately the UTEC won't work the Haltech will, but requires wiring to do be done as the looms are different from 2003-2006 and 2007 + Might want to look into UpRev. Combine this with a good intake (Injen is my favorite for the 2007 +), test pipes or high flow cats and a proper exhaust, and the car should realistically pick up around 40 whp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 ah then unfortunately the UTEC won't work the Haltech will, but requires wiring to do be done as the looms are different from 2003-2006 and 2007 + Might want to look into UpRev. Combine this with a good intake (Injen is my favorite for the 2007 +), test pipes or high flow cats and a proper exhaust, and the car should realistically pick up around 40 whp Lovely...i v got the nismo exhaust and intakes...just need the high flow cats...how much roughly for a haltech??? any probs that i may have??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 Why go Haltech when UpRev would use the stock ECU ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greekman Posted October 26, 2009 Author Share Posted October 26, 2009 Why go Haltech when UpRev would use the stock ECU ? good question...its only cos haltech does so many more things....plus the concept is to go fi in the future.... by the sound of it tho i cant see how i can justify the expense to myself... I think the mods should make a thread with all the options and posts from traders so that us common people can have all the info with testimonials. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 I think the mods should make a thread with all the options and posts from traders so that us common people can have all the info with testimonials. Or alternatively use the search button and do your own work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam@Z1auto.com Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 we've got hfc's in stock for the HR - shoot me a pm, I'll give you a good deal on them The Haltech we do as well, and can get you sorted with the diagram you'll need for the wiring. It's quite a bit of things that need to be changed around, but it is a fantastic ecu (I am using one on my own car, and previously used a UTEC) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz77 Posted October 26, 2009 Share Posted October 26, 2009 You could check out the UTEC.... one for sale on here! have you sold your UTEC mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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