brummybird Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Does anyone use them? I have took a quick look at this one: http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stor ... yId_165640 I am worried about swirls in my paint so not sure if they are a good idea or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 As I have said before, the only way a machine will go near my zed is if it has a Pro Detailer using it. If the budget allows its worth getting it detailed professionally and then once you have all the issues sorted its easy enough to keep it looking good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuck Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 Doesn't look like a bad one, its a random orbit so is more forgiving then the rotary polishers. As an alternative you could try THIS one, which is both cheaper and I'm made to believe better. I tried machine polishing yesterday, just writing a thread with the pics and results for all to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunset350z Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I wouldn't attempt it yourself. The paint is very thin and you could end up making things worse. Get a detailer to do the job and he will show you how to keep your car swirl free when you wash it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markie Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I totally agree with what Martine and Sunset say!! Get the professionals to do the job and then keeping the tip top will be nice and simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I totally agree with what Martine and Sunset say!! Get the professionals to do the job and then keeping the tip top will be nice and simple. Less of the Martine you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markie Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I totally agree with what Martine and Sunset say!! Get the professionals to do the job and then keeping the tip top will be nice and simple. Less of the Martine you Ooopsie!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chris`I Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I wouldnt get any of those 20 quid cheapy polishers. Go check out Detailing World and see what they make of them. Last I saw they dont have the power or the control required to do a proper job. Nor do the random orbit ones have a true random orbit to them. The cheapest one I was recommended was the Kestrel Dual Action polisher ( http://i4detailing.co.uk/acatalog/Kestr ... her_1.html ), which for the money is excellent, but still 10x that of the Halfords ones! As Martin say, unless you read up a lot and really know what you are doing dont bother, pay a pro and make sure you have a good wash technique afterwards to keep them away. The Zed paint is very thin and can be burnt through very easily if you dont know what you are doing. On the flip side, if you are up for reading up a lot on DW, I used the Kestrel to correct my Zed to a decent level at about 2/3 what it would have cost to get pro to do it, and now I have the stuff to do it again if needs be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I have just bought the Megs G220 soft paint kit from Polishedbliss. Not tried it on the zed yet as I only had it corrected about a month ago,but have been practising on the mrs peugeot with quite good results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 I've just borrowed a mates G220 for a few weeks. gonna practice on the Vectra first though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 i used one of those halfords one's once and it was rubbish. I agree with MARTINE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 I have had a Porter Cable 7424 Random Orbit for a couple of years and recently bought a Makita 9227 Rotary Polisher. It isn't easy work. I think it's harder than doing it by hand as concentration has to be 100% (especially with the Makita!!!) but the results are very good. Don't be scared to do it but also invest in GOOD stuff! Machine polishers work with products specifically made for machines. It is expensive to get all the right gear but it will last for ages! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummybird Posted July 6, 2009 Author Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thanks for the tips guys, I will go professional first I think. It was only cos a bloke down the road was using it on his mitsubishi GTO that I thought they might be easier than doing it by hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Thanks for the tips guys, I will go professional first I think. It was only cos a bloke down the road was using it on his mitsubishi GTO that I thought they might be easier than doing it by hand. They are good for apply some stuff, just dont expect to get proper results. It will give slightly better results than by hand and a lot easier. For example you could use one with AG SRP, and it wont really correct any scratches, but neither does applying it by hand. Same goes for waxes, makes it easy to apply and buff off. So not useless, just dont expect really good results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilsheepshagga_turbo Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 i think i will be purchasing a dual action machine soon.. i've done all the reading and watched a few videos on how to.. seems easy enough well the logics etc... now im stuck on whether to purchase the kestrel or megs g220.. also the pad and compound combination got me a lil confused. but saying that i was reading it at 5 am.. -ho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clenz Ltd Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Brummybird - sorry I am a bit late in getting to this thread. The piece of kit you are looking at is really only good for applying wax ie on with the machine and then buff off afterwards - it's not really that useful. Just as easy to apply by hand - assuming you wanted it for waxing that is. *** As a serious correction tool it is a straight no go - if you are looking for an entry level correction tool then a PC with Sonus DA pads is a good place to start. Nonetheless don't be mislead into thinking that a PC is a great correction tool either - it is very slow (although pretty safe) and is really best suited for light swirl removing and glossing. You could use a PC to achieve a zero defect standard on your Z (subject to PTG readings etc) but you would probably be looking at 1-2 hours a panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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