M5Sime Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Hi there, I noted a few threads on putting subs into the space under the rear strut bar, but what about re-using the space in the rear, where the BOSE Sub was...? Surely you can get an 8" or something in there? The US guys seem to have had a go.. Cheers Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 10" sub will fit in the cubby, depending on which brand you may need to make up a spacer in MDF also best to Dynamat the aluminium frame and depending on what sub use some insulation in the space. There is a co in the states that do a box to fit in the space out of fibreglass that tips the sub so it points up rather than at your back... Something I am looking to do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Sime Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 Thanks The BOSE unit looks very weedy in the pictures and this must be the best location for stealth and some decent extra quality bass. The smaller the enclosure of course the better the quality/source of power needed to drive it. Interested to know of the fibre glass company Cheers Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 There are two options when using the standard space.. 1) Build a box to fit the space - there are a few people in the US who sell these type of boxes 2) Use the stock sub frame etc If you use option 2 make note the following * Make sure you seal up the space properly. It is no-where near a sealed area. There are holes all over it. If you just put a normal sub into the hole it would sound rubbish. *Bear in mind that if you just seal it up using something like Dynamat you are left with quite a large area i.e. 2 cuft+ depending on the sub this might be way too much for a a sealed box for it *You would also probably have to build a MDF spacer to put on the metal frame - this is not as simple as it sounds for a 10" as there is hardly any contact area on some areas of the rim of the hole so you have to make sure your spacer is 100% sealed to the frame *Watch out for the size of the frame of the sub if you go for a 10". If you get something with a wide casket you will have to angle the sub to be more 90 to the road otherwise it will hit the metal on the base of the hole in the box. THink that covers it. And yes I have got a sub in there. Not very happy with it at the mo but think thats cause its an old crappy sub. Looking to get a better Hertz one in there soon as finances allow (or I can find an old Orion H2 as I love those) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Kenwood do some nice new shallow 10" subs that would fit, depth wise in the space... http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/speakers01/kfcwps1000f.asp Seem to be getting lots of good press but bet they are nothing on the JL / Hertz ranges... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz77 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 why not use a free air sub (if thats the correct name)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 why not use a free air sub (if thats the correct name)? Because 99/100 are crap and not worth the expense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Sime Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 So how about a nice little 8" in a sealed enclosure? Surely this could be made to work. A 10 is a nice to have, but then its all about spl and natural ability to drop. A well made 8 should be more than enough for audiophile use with a good source of current to get the excursion.... Just a thought Cheers Simon Or glass fibre enclosures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz77 Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 why not use a free air sub (if thats the correct name)? Because 99/100 are crap and not worth the expense. what make are the 1%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I dont know of one but I am sure there will be one somewhere thus why I put 99/100. Probably a custom made by a real speaker specialist costing silly money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kta Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 10" Sub will go in with a box behind the seat, it just takes some 'persuading' Sounds great though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ms8qt Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 A 10" Genesis or JL Audio sub in a sealed enclosure under the strut brace (available from 'zenclosures', a US eBay seller) is a MUCH better option in my opinion. Only cost me £144 for the enclosure including delivery and customs/import duty. I was steered away from putting a better sub in the stock location by several people, including my ICE installer, and am VERY happy I did! The standard Bose sub was taken out and the amp was installed in its place, thus still leaving the other glovebox (behind passenger seat) free for storage of other things you want/need to keep in the car. More details (and photos) can be seen by clicking the link below http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=23973 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Anyone shipped one of these over? http://www.wickedcas.com/product.php?pr ... t=8&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattG Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Anyone shipped one of these over? http://www.wickedcas.com/product.php?pr ... t=8&page=1 No, but I bought a set of their door pods trimmed in vinyl recently. The shipping was quick but way over the odds so I'd try to negotiate that first. I got one of those strut bar boxes from SonixEnclosures and the shipping for that was less than the door pods from WickedCAS! Didn't really have a choice though as there's no way my CDT ES62i components would fit in the doors. The shipping charges were automatically added by his web site so I'd try emailing them or PM'ing WickedCAS through the US 350 forums (he seems to have a big presence there) and he might be able to do you a better shipping quote. The quality of the pods was pretty good. The fit is ok and the vinyl matches the interior fairly well. I'm tempted to get them properly retrimmed in in leather to match the seats at some point though. I did have to use some chemical metal to fix the fibreglass in a few places. I had to pull the vinyl off and modify them anyway though as the ES62i mid bass drivers were still a tad to large to fit in the pods properly! If I hadn't had to do that I'd would have left them as they came. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Cheers mate. I have other shipping options so will get intouch, unless the guy I know over here can make one up as the box dimensions are all available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 why not use a free air sub (if thats the correct name)? Because 99/100 are crap and not worth the expense. what make are the 1%? I have heard the FI infinite baffles are ment to be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Sime Posted July 5, 2009 Author Share Posted July 5, 2009 If going for a sealed design as the most typical, then given the tight space, does this need to be a very special glass fibre creation or can it be made from mdf etc?? I saw some comments on getting the face angle of the sub right etc. Also comments that someone makes a glassfibre enclosure? I would have thought this would be the best compromise, rather than the infinite baffle design Cheers Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yeah usually IMO IB sucks as you need loads of power for not much bass and its not tight like a sealed or wobbley like a ported its boomy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 For a range of bass sound, sealed all the way. Ported if you want it to boom. Infinite baffle if you're just desperate to say you have a sub and don't care how it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 Infinite baffle if you're just desperate to say you have a sub and don't care how it sounds. lol So true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M5Sime Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 So it seems that most have not been able to make the stealth install deliver that well? Even the US guys?? I can see that a larger enclosure under the strut brace is going to be better, but space is space ! I am sure a cheeky 8 or poss 10 with some quality amplification is going to work 1 ft away from you..? Cheers Sime Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob_Quads Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 It can be done thats for sure but it just costs $$$ to do as its much more work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Mine is complete stealth, has won the odd award and did cost a lot of £££ to do. Take a look at my install pics in this section... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dblock Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 So it seems that most have not been able to make the stealth install deliver that well? Even the US guys?? I can see that a larger enclosure under the strut brace is going to be better, but space is space ! I am sure a cheeky 8 or poss 10 with some quality amplification is going to work 1 ft away from you..? Cheers Sime If you dont put it in a box it will be running IB mode so you have to be careful of the power you give it. Also it might be really boomy as IB sounds like that. Why not run older kicker (round) solobaric 8". They can be made to work in 0.3cuft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yokomo Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 just out on interset how big is it back there im sure ive seen a photo. that made it look rather large. if it is small say less than half a cube +1 on a decnt 8" and give it amps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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