maz77 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 This is in the making. More details to be finalised if this generates enough interest. What we are getting Haltech ECU Installation Mapping (dyno time) For £1300 all in The catch: We have to get 20 cars to get that price. First of all, members feed back on the price and further info required would be appreciated. Second, we can start a list of genuinely interested members following further discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Decent price but I think getting 20 people will be a problem. Though if you can get the interest, i'm in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I think you may find that djtimodj tried to do this recently and got about 1 yes! Personnaly I think its a bit strong at £1300 for a group buy and 20 cars..... You got 2 hopes and ones called Bob!! The price he was quoted was £1400 and he needed 3 cars to get a decent discount...... Out of interest what returns are you hoping to see for £1300? Edit: Sorry to urinate on your bonfire Edit 2: Just saw Ian said yes.... He was the one that said yes last time!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Theres just not a lot of call for it at those prices for the people that plan to stay N/A. Both Tim & me have future FI plans so its something that will be needed sooner or later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Theres just not a lot of call for it at those prices for the people that plan to stay N/A. Both Tim & me have future FI plans so its something that will be needed sooner or later I don't get this approach at all. The ECU and FI setup are so vital to the health of your Z Why not just wait till its FI time? and get a complete bundle with a warranty .? How would you feel if you turned up a year after having you Haltech done to pickup your newly Fi'd zed. to be told "sorry, the haltech doesn't do the job properly!"? If you are planning to go the FI route,.... You HAVE to get both done at the same time, by the same tuner. No satisfaction, NO PAY! or a free return to stock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 That one will though Martin. Its proven, lots of TT in the states run them... Also running it this way give you the joys of your N/A mods whilst saving up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Theres just not a lot of call for it at those prices for the people that plan to stay N/A. Both Tim & me have future FI plans so its something that will be needed sooner or later I don't get this approach at all. The ECU and FI setup are so vital to the health of your Z Why not just wait till its FI time? and get a complete bundle with a warranty .? How would you feel if you turned up a year after having you Haltech done to pickup your newly Fi'd zed. to be told "sorry, the haltech doesn't do the job properly!"? If you are planning to go the FI route,.... You HAVE to get both done at the same time, by the same tuner. No satisfaction, NO PAY! or a free return to stock We know the Haltech is good enough to support FI. If I can get a good price on the haltech fitted before I go FI then a bit more n/a power until I can go FI would be nice At the moment my main issue with going FI is finding an insurance company to cover me so a bit more power until then would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin W Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Theres just not a lot of call for it at those prices for the people that plan to stay N/A. Both Tim & me have future FI plans so its something that will be needed sooner or later I don't get this approach at all. The ECU and FI setup are so vital to the health of your Z Why not just wait till its FI time? and get a complete bundle with a warranty .? How would you feel if you turned up a year after having you Haltech done to pickup your newly Fi'd zed. to be told "sorry, the haltech doesn't do the job properly!"? If you are planning to go the FI route,.... You HAVE to get both done at the same time, by the same tuner. No satisfaction, NO PAY! or a free return to stock We know the Haltech is good enough to support FI. If I can get a good price on the haltech fitted before I go FI then a bit more n/a power until I can go FI would be nice At the moment my main issue with going FI is finding an insurance company to cover me so a bit more power until then would be nice Ian mate,you are so right (along with Mark) on so many things! I just feel ( 11.5 months into my warranty period) that you can get into a real mess with this approach maybe best to have this conversation in Wales rather than on the forum.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Theres just not a lot of call for it at those prices for the people that plan to stay N/A. Both Tim & me have future FI plans so its something that will be needed sooner or later I don't get this approach at all. The ECU and FI setup are so vital to the health of your Z Why not just wait till its FI time? and get a complete bundle with a warranty .? How would you feel if you turned up a year after having you Haltech done to pickup your newly Fi'd zed. to be told "sorry, the haltech doesn't do the job properly!"? If you are planning to go the FI route,.... You HAVE to get both done at the same time, by the same tuner. No satisfaction, NO PAY! or a free return to stock We know the Haltech is good enough to support FI. If I can get a good price on the haltech fitted before I go FI then a bit more n/a power until I can go FI would be nice At the moment my main issue with going FI is finding an insurance company to cover me so a bit more power until then would be nice Ian mate,you are so right (along with Mark) on so many things! I just feel ( 11.5 months into my warranty period) that you can get into a real mess with this approach maybe best to have this conversation in Wales rather than on the forum.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris`I Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Unfortunately I have to agree with the others. For £1300 you will only interest those wanting to go FI in the future, and also who have tuners who will use the Haltech (admittedly not many wont). For me I want a nice basic piggy back that is cheaper that can unleash a bit more mid range torque more than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 Most important question is who's doing the tuning? I have no problems with that price at all (and I'm staying N/A), but if I'm paying that sort of cash I want it to be with someone with a proven background. Also, which Haltech are we talking about here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 20????? Seems like a good price but finding 20 people will be a struggle. You'd maybe get 3-5..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 My humble input: x 20 never. 1 tuner for supply,fit and map. Fitted and mapped at time of going FI. Not cost effective if remaining NA. More importantly: Who is the proposed Tuner? Alex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmJak Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 +1 on the above questions. Andlid got the Haltech Platinum fitted and tuned for £1500 I think (sorry if I'm wrong but that's the figure in my head). Would need to be a good tuner and a decent version of the Haltech for me personally. Never get 20 people tho. Esp considering a trader is promising to start re-flashing the stock ECU soon. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz77 Posted April 18, 2009 Author Share Posted April 18, 2009 more info the dyno will be done at dynotech (Erith) http://www.hayesdynotech.co.uk/index1.html its the same one that DAN mentioned in another thread (cant remember which thread). its a dyno dynamics 450DS 4WD & 2WD capable of 2400 BHP the installation and tuning will be done by specialist from ARTech Tuning http://www.artech-tuning.co.uk/shop/index.php/ the tuner will do it at dynotech, he tunes DMS cars If more info is required as the discussion unfolds I will chase it up and post it here on the thread reading previous threads I couldn't find a match for the price. If you guys think its not good enough then we might have to negotiate further but from what I see it seems like a very good price (correct me if I am wrong guys and girls). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted April 18, 2009 Share Posted April 18, 2009 more info the dyno will be done at dynotech (Erith) http://www.hayesdynotech.co.uk/index1.html its the same one that DAN mentioned in another thread (cant remember which thread). its a dyno dynamics 450DS 4WD & 2WD capable of 2400 BHP the installation and tuning will be done by specialist from ARTech Tuning http://www.artech-tuning.co.uk/shop/index.php/ the tuner will do it at dynotech, he tunes DMS cars If more info is required as the discussion unfolds I will chase it up and post it here on the thread reading previous threads I couldn't find a match for the price. If you guys think its not good enough then we might have to negotiate further but from what I see it seems like a very good price (correct me if I am wrong guys and girls). I don't think the price is bad. I think trying to find 20 cars will be impossible. As I said, 3-5 maybe and it'd be a goer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 +1 on the above questions. Andlid got the Haltech Platinum fitted and tuned for £1500 I think (sorry if I'm wrong but that's the figure in my head). Would need to be a good tuner and a decent version of the Haltech for me personally. Never get 20 people tho. Esp considering a trader is promising to start re-flashing the stock ECU soon. . . That sounds about right Would be more £ today though Haltech all the way is what I recon, hard to find tuners that know what they are doing with the unit though. What Haltech unit are you talking about in the gb though? They got two for the Z and one is much cheaper then the platinum kit... I'd talk to the guys in Haltech to see if the tuner in question is capable (known by them) to do good tunes with the Haltech ECU. The support from the Haltech staff is pretty solid! On this note... I'm strongly considering upping my injectors and possibly pump to run my yoke on E85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz77 Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 it is the The Platinum Pro 350Z haltech ECU. check the web site http://www.haltech.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=78 haltech RRP $2600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 it is the The Platinum Pro 350Z haltech ECU. check the web site http://www.haltech.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=78 haltech RRP $2600 Well priced so Even with a base tune my went from 265 (fly) to 300 (fly) so if you could option out on the actual tune and have a price maybe for the ECU only and one with tune? (since tune is more soft cost then hard cost) Would be cool to have it running over 1 weekend... some meet 20 pre and after dyno's of da Z'z... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maz77 Posted April 22, 2009 Author Share Posted April 22, 2009 it is the The Platinum Pro 350Z haltech ECU. check the web site http://www.haltech.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=78 haltech RRP $2600 Well priced so Even with a base tune my went from 265 (fly) to 300 (fly) so if you could option out on the actual tune and have a price maybe for the ECU only and one with tune? (since tune is more soft cost then hard cost) Would be cool to have it running over 1 weekend... some meet 20 pre and after dyno's of da Z'z... how long have you had yours mate? any issues to report? where did you get it tuned? it does have a base Haltech map already isnt it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 it is the The Platinum Pro 350Z haltech ECU. check the web site http://www.haltech.com/index.php?option ... &Itemid=78 haltech RRP $2600 Well priced so Even with a base tune my went from 265 (fly) to 300 (fly) so if you could option out on the actual tune and have a price maybe for the ECU only and one with tune? (since tune is more soft cost then hard cost) Would be cool to have it running over 1 weekend... some meet 20 pre and after dyno's of da Z'z... how long have you had yours mate? any issues to report? where did you get it tuned? it does have a base Haltech map already isnt it? Had some issues allright (think it was the tune more then the unit...) Read more here: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=16816 It comes with base haltech map from the downloadable software + manual, and they release firmware upgrades now and then thats easy to apply. The latest software can deal with O2 settings, the old one couldn't as far as I remember. Got it tuned here: http://www.c*uture-aut*.c*m/ (IRELAND, replace * with o) Any more Q's dont hesitate to ask Currently looking into a RON 95 retune and a E85 tune. You can easliy swap within the Windows GUI. (was/is tuned with E5 from Maxol) Pengu would also have one and might have other input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xendric Posted April 22, 2009 Share Posted April 22, 2009 As I've mentioned in other threads, I bought the Haltech Platinum and a vortech tuner kit. My tuner was ecstatic about the ECU, in his own words, it's the best ECU for this car, bar none. It can handle FI greater than any piggyback could, especially if you're going for high HP. It's got features that the other big player (aka FCON V Pro) doesn't offer. I can't be arsed to do a head to head comparison, but you can do some research and figure it out for yourself. I searched around for a few weeks, asked a few tuners and they all suggested this ECU over any other currently on the market. This might sound stupid, but I was initially interested in the FCON. So I called a few dealers to get quotes etc. One of them even suggested I went with the Haltech. He was an HKS dealer, mind! Many US cars run them and the results have proven fantastic. Me, I think it might be overkill for a N/A application. A piggyback can probably offer all that a Haltech can at half the price. But for a serious N/A build or any FI application, you won't find a better ECU out there currently. Just my 2 cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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