steve_b Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 Its a roadsport but has a tweaked VHPD engine, 205 BHP in a 525Kg car makes for lots of fun. Has no drivers aids, no power assisted brakes let alone ABS. No stability control just the throttle-clutch-brake and and steering that only has 3/4 turn lock to lock. The elise is bogo execpt nitrons, nut sure about honda (220-300bhp) or Audi (250-300BHp) upgrade as in 3 minds about E.T. Now only if I could drive the things well. Back to OP, please get some videos up as always prefer cars in action compared to stationary pics. what Caterham have you got mate? My dad has a 1.6k supersport (140bhp) and its such a fun car to drive, we went down to south of spain in it last year!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted December 26, 2008 Author Share Posted December 26, 2008 Hey Tere I get the impression you are very excited about your new aquisition & obviously want to share it with all of us. The '03 350 is still my car of choice for the track -- it's far more precise in cornering (of course it's purposefully set up for the track). On the typical track, all the Viper's torque doesn't get you much since it's not quite as good in the corners. Even with some suspension tuning, I doubt that it will corner as good as the 350. We'll see what happens -- we might do the ACR suspension on it. The ACR T6060 tranny would also be a little improvement. Most of the Gen 4 Viper stuff bolts right up to a Gen 3 Viper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xendric Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Just need to be extra careful with it mate. My brother's best friend had a supercharged Viper making about 650bhp, then one day, as he was cruising around in the autobahn in 4th gear, he made a move to take over someone in front of him and the car out of nowhere started to spin around from sidewall to sidewall. He concluded that it was a combination of too much torque, no electronics and crap suspension setup. But to lose traction so badly and so suddenly in 4th is scary. I hope you enjoy your new car mate, just give it some time to get used to its character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarnie Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Just need to be extra careful with it mate.My brother's best friend had a supercharged Viper making about 650bhp, then one day, as he was cruising around in the autobahn in 4th gear, he made a move to take over someone in front of him and the car out of nowhere started to spin around from sidewall to sidewall. He concluded that it was a combination of too much torque, no electronics and crap suspension setup. But to lose traction so badly and so suddenly in 4th is scary. I hope you enjoy your new car mate, just give it some time to get used to its character. 'mate' is a jet fighter plane pilot and is also a woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 LOL... Yep, if you jab the throttle in any gear on the Viper with the front wheels slightly turned, it will turn around and bite you in the asp. Throttle technique has to be smooth to bring the torque on evenly to the wheels. The Quaife LSD improves even torque distribution to the wheels. Suspension tuning and proper alignment are also factors. Unlike a lot of cars, the Viper is one that takes 100% of your attention on the road. The second you don't pay attention, it will rear up and show its fangs. The 350 is incredibly stable at over 150, so much so that it's boring. The Viper is not as stable -- it will go over 200 mph, but at that speed, it's a big handful of car even for seasoned drivers. The reason the ACR has that big wing is the car needs incredible rear downforce -- the wing generates up to 1,200 pounds of downforce to give it stability. The coupe has a different aero design on the rear than the roadster, so the roadster is the least stable of the three Viper models at high speeds. Fourth gear in the Viper is 1:1 (the gear you use for your dyno numbers) -- 5th and 6th gears are "overdrives". If you're into shredding tires, one of the top drift drivers in the world has won championships driving Vipers -- they go sideways so well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronzee Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Very nice Tere The petrol station will be your best friend What is the fuel consumption like? It gets about the same as my '03 350Z when I'm putting the pedal to the metal. Freeway cruising is interesting -- in 6th gear at 70 mph it's practically at idle rpm. At 100 mph in 6th, she's only turning 1,800 rpm. So, sedate highway cruising isn't too bad in the fuel department. The Viper only has an 18 gallon tank, which you can suck dry pretty quickly with the pedal to the floor. Lol, and that 2003 of yours ain't no slouch. Is it. So is the ASP getting lots of road time at the moment Tere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmJak Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 One of my ambitions is to do the Nurburgring in a Viper - obviously a taxi and not me driving. Not very ambitious I know but can imagine it will scare the bejesus out of me. Gotta be better than a skydive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 Very nice Tere The petrol station will be your best friend What is the fuel consumption like? It gets about the same as my '03 350Z when I'm putting the pedal to the metal. Freeway cruising is interesting -- in 6th gear at 70 mph it's practically at idle rpm. At 100 mph in 6th, she's only turning 1,800 rpm. So, sedate highway cruising isn't too bad in the fuel department. The Viper only has an 18 gallon tank, which you can suck dry pretty quickly with the pedal to the floor. Lol, and that 2003 of yours ain't no slouch. Is it. So is the ASP getting lots of road time at the moment Tere? LOL... I took old Black Cherry out for a spin yesterday. The FLYIN Z never disappoints -- she's very quick and nimble. I'm almost tempted to take the 350 on the next Viper hill country cruise to show the Viper folks a real "bad asp" in the twisties. I had to laugh yesterday. My oldest son was over with his 350 -- the Viper was totally surrounded by 350s (and the 300). LOL... 5 cars and only 10 seats. My oldest grandson also had his Viper at the house, so that evened the score a little.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev-the-Rev Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 I think that one could do with lowering a bit Tere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 I think that one could do with lowering a bit Tere That and some new rubber on the back -- he's almost got the rear tires worn out doing power slides. The thing goes 5 mph in high gear so he comes downhill and throws the wheel to the stop flipping the back end around with the pedal still to the floor. Yesterday, he spotted a red SRT-10 on his way over to the house, and told his dad that that was his "snake car." Uh oh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted December 28, 2008 Author Share Posted December 28, 2008 I don't think I've ever posted a photo of my oldest son's 350. 35th Anniversary '05 350Z -- they only made a couple hundred in Ultra Yellow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted December 28, 2008 Share Posted December 28, 2008 Bit different to the GTR, but a nice choice there Tere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Tere - That thing is cool! I'm sure in a a year or two there will be a 'tisch' or the over run too! Very impressive beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted December 31, 2008 Share Posted December 31, 2008 Tere looks fab Thats what you call a beast non of yer pumped up steriod numbers we have on our highstreets here!! did I see Chris mention a Viper as a Taxi? One of my ambitions is to do the Nurburgring in a Viper - obviously a taxi and not me driving Viper as a Taxi cab! Now that would be fun! Imagine the hotel porter saying' Your taxi has arrived sir' - and pointing to that! wow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted January 1, 2009 Author Share Posted January 1, 2009 Tere - That thing is cool! I'm sure in a a year or two there will be a 'tisch' or the over run too! Very impressive beast! Thanks y'all. It is a totally unrefined beast with absolutely no road manners. It's so completely different to drive than the 350 -- aside from 4 wheels, the two cars have nothing in common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nixy Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Tere your family is ace - can you please adopt me my case is packed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 Any time any of y'all happen to visit the provincials across the pond and are passing through San Antonio, just let me know and we'll take some cars out for a cruise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanski Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Any time any of y'all happen to visit the provincials across the pond and are passing through San Antonio, just let me know and we'll take some cars out for a cruise! that sounds like a club meet to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trev-the-Rev Posted January 2, 2009 Share Posted January 2, 2009 Any time any of y'all happen to visit the provincials across the pond and are passing through San Antonio, just let me know and we'll take some cars out for a cruise! that sounds like a club meet to me! I'm on my way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tere Posted January 2, 2009 Author Share Posted January 2, 2009 Just west of San Antonio we have what's called the "Texas Hill Country" that has some incredibly fun (and challenging) driving roads. Y'all can probably relate to very narrow roads with no shoulders -- add 6-8 very tight turns per mile and incredible elevation changes and you're on a hill country road. We have one 95-mile loop called the "Three Sisters" -- three twisty ranch roads. Folks come from all over to ride the Three Sisters. Google: texas three sisters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronzee Posted January 3, 2009 Share Posted January 3, 2009 Any time any of y'all happen to visit the provincials across the pond and are passing through San Antonio, just let me know and we'll take some cars out for a cruise! that sounds like a club meet to me! Lol, I reckon. Party at Tere's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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