WoREoD Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Are the results final yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zStephen Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yup, its offical, however, no doubt the FIA will try and dock points for something silly. I'm glad he fitted his steering wheel at the end of the race as they could have disqualified him for it : The shots of the Ferrari garage finding out they hadnt won was absolutely hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H5 Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yup, its offical, however, no doubt the FIA will try and dock points for something silly. I'm glad he fitted his steering wheel at the end of the race as they could have disqualified him for it : The shots of the Ferrari garage finding out they hadnt won was absolutely hilarious. +1 - I was shouting at the telly for him to put the wheel on!! I do feel sorry for Massa. Not Ferrari, but Massa. One of the more genuine guys in F1. Well done Lewis though, thoroughly deserved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marzman Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 Yup, its offical, however, no doubt the FIA will try and dock points for something silly. I'm glad he fitted his steering wheel at the end of the race as they could have disqualified him for it : The shots of the Ferrari garage finding out they hadnt won was absolutely hilarious. +1 - I was shouting at the telly for him to put the wheel on!! I do feel sorry for Massa. Not Ferrari, but Massa. One of the more genuine guys in F1. Well done Lewis though, thoroughly deserved. Yeh, agree with you there pal. He seems alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted November 2, 2008 Share Posted November 2, 2008 brilliant end to the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetZed Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I felt sory for Massa too but not for Ferrari, definitely :yahoo: for Lewis, all I could think when Vettel passed him was that the extra point that the FIA gave Massa for driving into Bourdais was going to make the difference, I was and the missus had started kicking things! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu2 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 oh well - next year with all the rule changes mclaren will be cast adrift without the tech they stole from ferrari - massa for 2009! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 mclaren will be cast adrift without the tech they stole from ferrari What a load of rubbish Nothing to do with the Ferrari employee who handed the information over then? Ferrari should have had better employee control. So in a word it was not stolen both teams had a part to play in the matter. And quite wrongly only one team was punished. And what a travesty it would have been if Lewis had lost the championship by 1 point after the race fixing in Belguim where your man Massa was handed the win when he never turned up at the race. I am sorry but the best driver won it this year.Lewis fought for every point and was gifted non by the FIA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I felt sorry for Massa too but not for Ferrari, definitely :yahoo: for Lewis, all I could think when Vettel passed him was that the extra point that the FIA gave Massa for driving into Bourdais was going to make the difference, I was and the missus had started kicking things! +1 - Massa did what he had to do but McLaren/Hamilton did not perform as they should and Lewis was very, very lucky. But overall the way the season has gone Hamilton deserved the championshp despite the FIA's attempts to undermine it. As Ferrari take the manufacturers crown they should be grateful. I wonder what Vettel is feeling now - clearly he has a lot of talent and having signed up for the Red Bull sister team that does not have the Ferrari power I wonder if we will see a move to Ferrari before too long as Raikonnen seems to have lost motivation and is so boring - frankly I can't see the Italians supporting him for much longer. Oh, and like SunsetZed, I am now repairing the damage caused by my missus during the last lap of the race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobby Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Congratulations to Lewis...Massa drove well but bad luck! Glock tried to get max points for toyota by staying out on the slicks...and it gave way at the last lap...he achieved what he took the risk for. Fortunately the slicks didnt hold up another lap...if it did...lewis finito! NExt season?...watchout for the following. HAmilton, Alonso, Raikonnen all champions. Vettel, Kubica, Massa, Button, B.Senna?, Heidfield: All fast drivers who have the potential to win more than one race in the season, only limited by the development of the car. My bet is raikonnen...he had the car last year that he wanted...didnt like it this year..IF he gets the car he wants..then he WILL blow everyone off the track. Raikonnen's best performances were from his mclaren days..and it clearly shows he is adriver who will beat everyone if he gets the car he wants. Lewis...I only hope he stays in a swiss jungle completely isolated and not turn into this stupid celebrity crap...the press will eat him alive..he will lose focus on the only thng he is good at..racing cars..and then he will turn into nothing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetZed Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Oh, and like SunsetZed, I am now repairing the damage caused by my missus during the last lap of the race Good luck with the repairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1 HNK Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 i think lewis did deserve the championship but glock let him through...he had luck on his side for that last turn!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maccaman Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 Just to say Glock didn't just let him through. If you watched his car trying but squirelling up that last hill you realise how bad the grip really was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beavis Posted November 3, 2008 Author Share Posted November 3, 2008 Just to say Glock didn't just let him through. If you watched his car trying but squirelling up that last hill you realise how bad the grip really was. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 oh well - next year with all the rule changes mclaren will be cast adrift without the tech they stole from ferrari - massa for 2009! Good job they must have binned the info they got from Ferrari then - otherwise they could have had the car blow up twice on Hamilton. If anything Ferrari should have hoped they were using the information! Massa had reliability issues and pit stop balls ups to contend with - all matters that reside within the control of Ferrari. Lewis on the other hand was battling some of the most bizzare and truly inexplicable stewarding decisions ever made. It was hard not to feel a little upset for Massa - how he must have been dreaming of becoming world champion by winning the Brazilian grand Prix in front of his home nation, and even to celebrate it for 20 seconds or so until they realised what had happened. None of the issues during this season were his fault, he just did the best he could with the tools he was given. PS. Even if Lewis had not gained 5th, they would have been level on points - but Massa would have won having had more wins. Though "level on points" is questionable given the net gain of 6 in spa and the extra 2 that he was gifted in Shanghai (unless of course Kimis car suddenly began sporting an anchor toward the end of that race). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pingu2 Posted November 3, 2008 Share Posted November 3, 2008 I imagine the ferrari data went to improving their existing design and suggesting further improvements to it rather than just giving them something to copy... although of course they claim it didn't You're right - Ferrari screwed up a few races ... such a shame for Massa who had a pretty impressive season (nothing like stirring up the subject) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam@Z1auto.com Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 A fantastic race for sure, one of the best I've seen...this season all in all is the best in my recent memory in fact. That being said, I'm not a McClaren fan at all - not sure why, they just don't do it for me. However, hats off the Lewis for being in the right place at the right time and getting it just right enough to come out on top. He's obviously a very talented driver, and I think he's a great steward for the sport in general. Vettel - what can I say. I'm with David Hobbes on this one - 2 years we'll be seeing him as World Champ. The boy definitely has chops! Now, as for Glock, I'd bet the tifosi sent La Cosa Nostra to search for his home starting yesterday lololol. He obviously confused brake pedal with accelerator, or had a momentary, yet IMHO deliberate "whoops" in order to not favor Ferrari. It was just too convenient that on the last turn he surrenders the position...wet weather or not. Either way, it was still a great race and a fantastic season overall. Meanwhile Glock was spotted making a rather large cash deposit today to a bank off the Caymans (I kid!) http://cornerbalance.wordpress.com/2008 ... _785318c2/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmmackfc Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Fantastic end to the race. Felt a bit sorry for Massa, as hes one of the good guys really. Can't see him ever getting a championship now, Kimi will be stronger again next season and the gap to the other teams will be closer in my opinion. The real racers should be able to make more passing moves, so guys like Vettel and Heidfeld I think will do particularly well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1 HNK Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 A fantastic race for sure, one of the best I've seen...this season all in all is the best in my recent memory in fact. That being said, I'm not a McClaren fan at all - not sure why, they just don't do it for me. However, hats off the Lewis for being in the right place at the right time and getting it just right enough to come out on top. He's obviously a very talented driver, and I think he's a great steward for the sport in general. Vettel - what can I say. I'm with David Hobbes on this one - 2 years we'll be seeing him as World Champ. The boy definitely has chops! Now, as for Glock, I'd bet the tifosi sent La Cosa Nostra to search for his home starting yesterday lololol. He obviously confused brake pedal with accelerator, or had a momentary, yet IMHO deliberate "whoops" in order to not favor Ferrari. It was just too convenient that on the last turn he surrenders the position...wet weather or not. Either way, it was still a great race and a fantastic season overall. Meanwhile Glock was spotted making a rather large cash deposit today to a bank off the Caymans (I kid!) http://cornerbalance.wordpress.com/2008 ... _785318c2/ +1 i watched it again last night and the track wasnt even that wet, there is no way lewis passed glock due to pace!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmmackfc Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Just spotted this on the HSV site... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 One team stayed on dry tyres - guess which one... I guess Trulli must have been instructed to add 25% to his sector times too just to make it look above board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetZed Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 And one for the Ferrari fans who would like some fuel for the conspiracy theories... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmmackfc Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Repost - 3 posts back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Ah - but I like the "Owned" part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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