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ESP & TCS Lights on after a track day. Help!


da.murf

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Need help! 
 

Was at a Trackday yesterday and at end of the day when I started the car again to go home the esp and tsc lights came on and won’t go off. The ABS light isn’t on and throwing no codes with basic code reader. 

Tsc was enabled all day and working fine right until car was turned off, I’ve watched GoPro footage and the slip light was popping on and off coming out of bends etc. 

 

Fluids all ok
Brake light switch seems ok as rear brake lights come on when pedal pressed. 
 

 

Any ideas? Pedal dance for ecu reset didn’t sort it and battery out overnight didn’t fix it either. 

 

Any ideas??

Thanks

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After a track blast things like the yaw sensor will have been thrown about a bit.

 

On some cars a spurious fault indication takes 5 or 6 cold/hot engine cycles to reset, if not, then I would get the obd read by a more sophisticated reader.

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Ok I’ll have a look at that thanks. It’s not showing anything on basic obd code reader. Going to link it to a more sophisticated one asap. 
 

battery disconnect 12hrs didn’t do anything or the ecu pedal dance. 
 

all fuses seem ok. 
 

brakes where proper proper hot by end

 

could brake disc/pad/rear shoe issues cause a tcs and esp light but not abs?

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Hi,every track day my ecu esp and tcs lights come on. Think gets overheated. Peddle dance or Ob gets rid of ecu and usually esp/tcs goes off after cooled down. At Cadwell my car started bogging and I struggled to get off. After cooled down it was ok. Think esp was so overheated it kept slowing the engine. Had a track day crash and afterwards,after a short distance the skid light would flicker and then both lights came full on   Steering wheel not central. Had car tracked and no lights since. Perhaps your stressful use has damaged a sensor. Suspect if my esp had been working i wouldn’t have crashed. Poor excuse. Good luck 

Jeff

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On 23/07/2024 at 20:49, Jeff E said:

Hi,every track day my ecu esp and tcs lights come on. Think gets overheated. Peddle dance or Ob gets rid of ecu and usually esp/tcs goes off after cooled down. At Cadwell my car started bogging and I struggled to get off. After cooled down it was ok. Think esp was so overheated it kept slowing the engine. Had a track day crash and afterwards,after a short distance the skid light would flicker and then both lights came full on   Steering wheel not central. Had car tracked and no lights since. Perhaps your stressful use has damaged a sensor. Suspect if my esp had been working i wouldn’t have crashed. Poor excuse. Good luck 

Jeff

 

thanks for the info, peddle dance hasn't shifted the esp and tcs lights and 3 months later they still come on with each drive.

 

in terms of overheating, im guessing you mean wheel speed sensors or perhaps yaw sensors? 

 

beginning to create a list of things to swap out/replace lol 

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Sounds like the car thinks one wheel is continually slipping.  I'd stick a multimeter on the wheel speed sensors, first check they have battery voltage, then disconnect and check resistance across them.  If its not the same left to right or resistance is zero, its a fault with the wheel speed sensor / wiring.  If its not at battery voltage to begin with its a fault upstream, maybe in the ABS module.

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58 minutes ago, Keith D said:

Sounds like the car thinks one wheel is continually slipping.  I'd stick a multimeter on the wheel speed sensors, first check they have battery voltage, then disconnect and check resistance across them.  If its not the same left to right or resistance is zero, its a fault with the wheel speed sensor / wiring.  If its not at battery voltage to begin with its a fault upstream, maybe in the ABS module.

thank you input and thoughts, if it was the ABS module would the ABS light also not be on?

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Not necessarily, depends on the fault.    If the speed sensors check out I'd probably next do a continuity check between the speed sensor plugs and the ABS module plug to rule out that part of the harness (loose plug, pins, broken wire etc).  Then personally I'd move on to testing the yaw rate sensor and the steering angle sensor.

 

JMHO others might have a different approach.

 

 

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On 20/07/2024 at 12:01, da.murf said:

Need help! 
 

Was at a Trackday yesterday and at end of the day when I started the car again to go home the esp and tsc lights came on and won’t go off. The ABS light isn’t on and throwing no codes with basic code reader. 

Tsc was enabled all day and working fine right until car was turned off, I’ve watched GoPro footage and the slip light was popping on and off coming out of bends etc. 

 

Fluids all ok
Brake light switch seems ok as rear brake lights come on when pedal pressed. 
 

 

Any ideas? Pedal dance for ecu reset didn’t sort it and battery out overnight didn’t fix it either. 

 

Any ideas??

Thanks

This happened to my 350 before and I know it sounds silly but try a new set of pads - fixed it for me at least

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On 12/11/2024 at 14:17, ZaneDylan said:

This happened to my 350 before and I know it sounds silly but try a new set of pads - fixed it for me at least

thanks will do, will have a look, I know the rear pads and handbrake shoes will need sorting. front pads look like they have some life left

 

 

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