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Im looking to buy coilovers for my 350. My choices are MeisterR CRD, BC br, Tein flex Z and HSD Monopros and YSR (yellow speed racing). From my research :MeisterR are good and good customer service,but they are not true rear style which i wanted initially. Tein are bad from what i heard + they tend to leak and awful customer service BCs are taiwanese crap that is overrated by youtubers YSR : well,i got nothing for them HSD:rusty,bad customer service from driftworks + i saw a couple of guys with front shocks literally failed(bent where they mount to the control arm) + from what i saw rears dont go lower than stock height ? which is absurd. Any info would be highly appreciated from people that actually have driven on track. For what i will use the car: 70% track driving,other 30% motorway/city driving. and yes,the car is polybushed in the front,partially in the rear + yes,i have rear toe arms(to delete the buckets if i decide to go with true style coils). Initially whats important to me is,if something goes wrong like leaking i want to get replacement now, hence i dont want to import something from USA and if something goes wrong i have to wait for shipping from usa to europe.

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Meister R gets my vote, from previous experience on all my previous cars. Jerricks products have always surpassed my expectations 

 

Have you read about reinforcing the rear shock towers if you change over to true full coil overs? I don't know how true it is but I've read that they need to be done on the rear. 

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If you’re looking at 70% track work, then imho you need to be looking up a notch like KWv3 etc, as all those you mention are budget options which would suit a road car more than a track toy. Suspension is arguably the biggest thing you can do to a car to totally change it, and I certainly wouldn’t be scrimping at this point since you’ve polybushed everything already. 

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Previously had BC's and MeisterR coilovers, both were good however didn't use on track yet wouldn't envision them being an issue. I have WAT Racing coilovers and can highly recommend also.

 

 

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@Olly350z i do really like meisterR but they are not true style which i was hoping to get as i already have the toe arm at the back ready to go and cant return in anymore or have to sell otherwise,for the reinforcing,i personally dont think theres such need on 350z specifically,other cars,i would think for that.
@Ekonai agree with you, but i drive the car 1 month or so a year and i dont want to spend 3k pounds and barely use them,otherwise i would just get KW 3 Clubsport and call it a day.
@davey_83Really caught my attention with WAT racing, unfortunatelly i cant find online a coilovers for 350z made from them. Also if something happens shipping from taiwan would be bigger problem than shipping around Europe(cars in east europe, even if theres stock in UK i still need to ship to East Europe,but taiwan seems a little too much)
@ShortPaulI agree with you also, but same what i said to Ekona, cars not really in use that much, otherwise yeah.. KW,Nitron,Ohlin,Cusco etc.etc. would be the best.

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BC is out of picture,spoke with enough people in the motorsport,not one said that BCs are worth anything and i wont risk it. Im looking right now at yellow speed, they look exactly the same like your WAT ones,i wonder are they made in the same factory

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BC's or TEIN are more than enough for what you're going to be using them for, we've sold many sets of both with not one returned, people using them for drifting and track days. Not sure who you spoke to but I can guarantee you either of those are sufficient. They both have UK HQ's where spare parts are well stocked. 

If you really want to go all out, KW or Bilstein are the creme de la creme. 

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14 hours ago, flexy97 said:

BC is out of picture,spoke with enough people in the motorsport,not one said that BCs are worth anything and i wont risk it. Im looking right now at yellow speed, they look exactly the same like your WAT ones,i wonder are they made in the same factory

 

Yellow speed I don't think are a bad bet either, however don't look the same as WAT Racing. The later has forged ally lock rings, top and lower mounts with 40 way damping. 

 

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@Coz@TORQEN Spoke with main man in motorsport from where im from, they refurbish suspension components and to say the least he said absolute NO NO for BCs, keep in mind our roads are no comparrison for good UK roads(yeah,they are good in comparison with some other ..)
as for TEIN,i will go for TEIN flex Z for sure if i cant find true coilovers alternative(MeisterR or maybe D2),as tein arent unfortunately true style coils.
@davey_83meh they kinda do xD, jokes aside saw a thread from years back in a different forum, one guy dismantled YSR coilover just for the sake of it, he said he is not impressed at all, poor quality, dont know if anything changed till now but wont risk it.Now im looking either at MeisterR if they can make me true coil set or D2 coilovers as i saw they actually sell them from France.Last resort is TEIN as its not true coil style unfortunatelly.

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suspension dampers set up you get what you pay for I am afraid to say.  a quality damper costs.

 

If your not racing then you dont need a triple adjustable damper, do you know how to adjust compression/rebound dampers? if not a single adjustable damper will be fine.

 

 

 

 

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@Mark@Abbey m/s single adj. damper is more than fine,i dont even care about adjustment to be honest, they just all come with adjustment,i just need a stiffer ride because my car is swaying like a bout even with aftermarket springs...

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ooh, anti roll bars, they are stock,i was looking to get front one but last year i had to unbolt the front sway bar but 2 bolts were stuck and i couldnt.... so i dont really have time to deal with that and i will leave it stock unfortunatelly as i most likely would have to drill broken bolts etc.i just dont want to deal with that now.
AS for the coilover situation now, if i want to use my andjustable toe arms and not bin them, my ONLY choice unfortunately is HSD monopros(wont deal with BC and D2,BC trash, D2 cheap taiwanese things..) Funny thing is if nobody knows, you cant find any info on HSD coils in Korea, its like the company doestn exist as they originate from South Korea.Sooo God knows who makes them and how tf they get over here to UK. 
LAST RESORT: im trying to get along with MeisterR. I managed to text with Jerrick who is one of the main men there, and he told me that they can do true coil set easy,problem is he ghosted me on the 1st day and i never heard from him for 4 days now.Wrote them an email and im praying someone else will care enough to make the true coil conversion and actually take care of me, as for now costumer service for MeisterR is zero.If i cant get along with MeisterR this week or beginning of next week i will go for HSD oooor maybe tain and i wont use my adj. toe arms...
What scares me in HSD is that there were couple of people in UK with 350Zs that had collapsed front shocks where they bolt to the control arm, if that happens to me with high speed i may literally die so if i get HSD i will 100% go to a motorsport shop and i will insist them to weld more metal on them where they bolt to the front control arm just so i can sleep at night.AAND people also say that rear is almost stock height with them on lowest setting ... 
PS: to convert MeisterRs to true rear coil, i would just need a top hat and spring, their damper already has the threads for adjustment, so its not like a want something impossible or big from them,i wrote the same post in facebook and one guy already runs the thing i want,i just need to get a hold of someone who cares from MeisterR.

 

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I am not going to get into your Coilover debate, however adjustable anti roll bars with adjustable drop links are a given.

 

This will be the main problem relating to the roll that you refer to.

 

Sway bars before coilovers every time.

 

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7 hours ago, flexy97 said:

ooh, anti roll bars, they are stock,i was looking to get front one but last year i had to unbolt the front sway bar but 2 bolts were stuck and i couldnt.... so i dont really have time to deal with that and i will leave it stock unfortunatelly as i most likely would have to drill broken bolts etc.i just dont want to deal with that now.
AS for the coilover situation now, if i want to use my andjustable toe arms and not bin them, my ONLY choice unfortunately is HSD monopros(wont deal with BC and D2,BC trash, D2 cheap taiwanese things..) Funny thing is if nobody knows, you cant find any info on HSD coils in Korea, its like the company doestn exist as they originate from South Korea.Sooo God knows who makes them and how tf they get over here to UK. 
LAST RESORT: im trying to get along with MeisterR. I managed to text with Jerrick who is one of the main men there, and he told me that they can do true coil set easy,problem is he ghosted me on the 1st day and i never heard from him for 4 days now.Wrote them an email and im praying someone else will care enough to make the true coil conversion and actually take care of me, as for now costumer service for MeisterR is zero.If i cant get along with MeisterR this week or beginning of next week i will go for HSD oooor maybe tain and i wont use my adj. toe arms...
What scares me in HSD is that there were couple of people in UK with 350Zs that had collapsed front shocks where they bolt to the control arm, if that happens to me with high speed i may literally die so if i get HSD i will 100% go to a motorsport shop and i will insist them to weld more metal on them where they bolt to the front control arm just so i can sleep at night.AAND people also say that rear is almost stock height with them on lowest setting ... 
PS: to convert MeisterRs to true rear coil, i would just need a top hat and spring, their damper already has the threads for adjustment, so its not like a want something impossible or big from them,i wrote the same post in facebook and one guy already runs the thing i want,i just need to get a hold of someone who cares from MeisterR.

 

 

Aaaaaaaand breeeeathe! 

 

Quick question, are you typing this message from your iPhone or Android device made in China with cheap Taiwanese chip things?

 

Your choices are pretty clear to me:

 

1.Ohlins, KW V3, Aragosta, Moton, Fortune Auto if the budget allows, in no particular order - from £2,500 to £10,0000

 

2. If not, any of the companies you mentioned are good quality coilovers decently priced which I'm 387% sure they will be waaaaay more in terms of performance and reliability for what you'll be using the car for: BC, K-Sport, D2, MeisterR, Megan Racing, Tein and so on. 
 

From the horror stories we heard about HSD, I wouldn't even consider it as candidate.

 

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@ZMANALEX @Ekona I will look into these if i could get mine out without breaking a bolt.
@Adrian@TORQEN Unfortunately i do type from a laptop thats made in china with taiwanese chips, thats why i have problems with it from day 1 :D...
as for the more expensive suspension choices, if someone had 5-10k to spend on just coilovers for 350z, i think you should just buy better car at this point for these money (price for the Z + 5k and suspension components i.e bmw M, AMG series.)

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An Electromagnetic Induction Heater will make light work of your seized bolts with absolutely no fire risk.

 

I have used these in the shop for the past 10 years, however, I still have the oxy/accy sitting in the corner.

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