The Bounty Bar Kid Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 Just read this: https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/entertainment/top-gear-dismantled-flintoff-crash-newsupdate/ Looks like they might permanently cancel it, shame. I know it's not as good as it used to be but it was motoring news. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Muxlow Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 It's sad indeed. I saw Flintoff on the telly the other day, he still looks quite bad but at least he is still alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 Yeah with so many accidents, a small tv station is not willing to take those risks anymore. Flintoff has been warned many times by producers and health and safety but he always pushes the boundaries. Like going beyond the speed limit within certain vehicles. So the bosses have had enough i reckon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted September 18, 2023 Share Posted September 18, 2023 The BBC, a small TV station. From what I've seen/heard, it was Flintoff's choice to walk away, not "the bosses". There was a desire, and a concerted effort, to continue but Freddie declined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Right decision. Died after the 3 left. The revival had way too many presenters. Obviously in early days sabine schmidt was a great guest host...... someone somewhere will make a replacement I'm sure. BBC 'axes Top Gear after 46 years as bosses concede there is "no way it can continue" after Freddie… https://mol.im/a/12603715 via https://dailym.ai/android Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 Still just a rumour then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) They paid out £9,000,000 million to Flintoff who is known for fanning about and taking risks. Apparently rumour has it he wasn't wearing a helmet and was standing up in an open top kit car when he crashed at low speed. Edited October 14, 2023 by GranTurismoEra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StormtrooperZ Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 Did Hammond get a pay out when he almost died? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 hours ago, GranTurismoEra said: They paid out £9,000,000 million to Flintoff who is known for fanning about and taking risks. Apparently rumour has it he wasn't wearing a helmet and was standing up in an open top kit car when he crashed at low speed. I read it was a three wheeled Morgan not a kit car 🤷 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 7 hours ago, StormtrooperZ said: Did Hammond get a pay out when he almost died? Nah no mention. He probably got a return to work cake though 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GranTurismoEra Posted November 18, 2023 Share Posted November 18, 2023 Appearing on BBC Breakfast today (November 9), Harris told hosts Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt: “I think he’s healing. “It was a serious incident," he continued. "I’m not going to say any more than that. As I’ve said in the book and in the few interviews I’ve given, I’m so proud of the fact that team Top Gear kept everything quiet and we were dignified. “There is nothing out there about what happened, there won’t be. There’s no mole in the organisation. I’m really, really proud of that. No Mole?! LOL....loads of moles at the local station! Some in bed with Daily Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formatzero Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Wont miss it ! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) When TG let Clarkson go, between that time and The Gran Tour/Chris Evans TG the vacuum was filled by YT car reviews like Chris Harris on Cars, Carfection Shmee150, Seen Through Glass etc as YouTubers had access to new cars and uploaded the reviews almost in real time. TG new or old was never able to do this, as it's shot months in advance therefore not being able to keep up with new car releases. While this had always been the case, the public at large weren't aware of this time delay that was later manifest. The writing was on the wall Edited November 19, 2023 by davey_83 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The landscape has changed. Online reviews are doing the job. Although the entertainment part is often missing (explosions, stunts and movie like scenes). Thats where a budget is required. Obviously a media company that makes its money from advertising etc can make it happen and create an online platform without needing a TV Channel. Anyone that manages to do this can possibly extract more viewers online than CarWoW who often get around a million plus per drag race video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) Unfortunately the money from Youtube (couple grand per upload) may not be on the same level as Top Gear have been pouring into their shows. Either get investors on or find a bigger budget or scale down the entertainment side and focus a bit more editing and cinematic style reviews. Amazon spent £4.5 million per show apparently on Grand Tour. BBC Spent around £833,000 per show. I think this includes wages of the 3 freelancers lol. Lets say they took on Chris Harris, Rory and Matt Le Blanc on a new show. I reckon they will spend significantly more on renegotiated contracts, stunts and special effects. Around 1- 2 million per episode. As Davey said you spend the money and theres a 3+ month delay from filming to screens. Youtubers have already got first dibs on new products. Youtubers are releasing content as quickly as a day or two. Especially if they are good at speed editing. Edited November 20, 2023 by GranTurismoEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 TG was never about having the first review though, as you say because of the schedule they’d always been behind magazines and streaming media. If people did watch it for a review (and most didn’t, tbh) then they watched it for the definitive review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 It’s been many years since TG was about reviews at all, in any guise. They have their own magazine & website (and YouTube channel) for anything remotely resembling a reviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 Without the TV show, will the magazine and website continue to generate enough revenue for the BBC to continue with them, or are they sufficiently stand alone now that they can survive without the show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 6 hours ago, Ekona said: TG was never about having the first review though, as you say because of the schedule they’d always been behind magazines and streaming media. If people did watch it for a review (and most didn’t, tbh) then they watched it for the definitive review. True. YouTube side isn't going away. Although their numbers could be a bit better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, McG said: Without the TV show, will the magazine and website continue to generate enough revenue for the BBC to continue with them, or are they sufficiently stand alone now that they can survive without the show. Tough call but they're lagging behind in views compared to Car Wow and the like. With 8 million subs compared to Carwows 8 mill + you'd expect more views. The drag racing format bring in views. The carwow format suits people's attention spans. I suppose not enough Chris Harris. Sometimes the host is the draw. Mat Watsons well known and personality matters. Get Clarkson back and the views skyrocket. Harris is on a different channel (collecting cars) . I suppose he can still freelance from Time to time at a cost! More freedom on YouTube within reason. Interesting to see the likes of Autotrader coming up on subscribers. Still a way to go. Lots of competition in this area like Hagerty etc. Edited November 20, 2023 by GranTurismoEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 CarWow is the least intellectual car channel I’ve ever watched. It’s dumbed down to the point where I can feel myself dribbling whenever I watch one of their vids. And yes, that does mean that sadly I do secretly enjoying watching the odd drag race episode 🤦♂️ the line of 911 Turbos was a good idea, just a shame it’s presented by absolute boofheads. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 The AutoTrader vids I’ve seen with Rory Reid and female host who I don’t know name of have been good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Ekona said: boofheads. Parenthood has changed you... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 20, 2023 Share Posted November 20, 2023 2 hours ago, McG said: Without the TV show, will the magazine and website continue to generate enough revenue for the BBC to continue with them, or are they sufficiently stand alone now that they can survive without the show. I'm genuinely surprised magazines are still a thing at all given the current consumer trends. The website is largely standalone these days, it doesn't really rely on the presenters for content but the shows producers were still involved. It could go very easily go either way in my opinion; those producers still need jobs after all and the Top Gear name is still a draw at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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