GranTurismoEra Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 On 12/09/2020 at 10:11, Ekona said: Don’t see why they’d go DCT, the only ‘box they have of that type is in the GTR and it’s always been a bit rubbish. Modern autos (esp the ZF units) are pretty much as good as a DCT unless it’s a full-on super sports car you have. Certainly even I would be happy to have one of those boxes in the car, but you’re right about the older autos in the 350/370 being a little bit pony. They need a new Auto in this car. 13 year old gearbox lol. In the new Juke they changed to DCT from CVT. So they need to update this. Doesn't bother me as manual is my preference. As the salesman once said when I asked about Automatic in the Nismo. Just drive manual mannn. Auto is more expensive but the auto is outdated lol. What are people really paying for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Depends on the auto though, doesn’t it? Old school ones are shocking, newer ones much quicker than a manual and as good easy as older DCTs. How good are Nissan autos? What do they use? I’ve no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) from the videos ive seen without being mapped they are a tiny bit laggy. The only time ive heard of a manual being better than the auto was in the M2 but that was hearsay. Ive never driven a GTR so cant comment on the Auto in that. But the 370 has used the 7 speed Jatco Transmission for over a decade. I rather they use the C63 or 9 speed Auto in the Mercedes C class than the Jatco. Just not sure how reliable they are, but they are more up to date. Theyll need to build a DCT gearbox Possibly that can handle the power safely Edited September 13, 2020 by GranTurismoEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Just had a read up, can’t find the exact model used in the Q60 (assuming they’re use the same auto in the Z), but it’s soundly trashed as being much slower than ze German cars. Bugger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 minute ago, GranTurismoEra said: Ive never driven a GTR so cant comment on the Auto in that. GTR is DCT, don’t forget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Ekona said: Just had a read up, can’t find the exact model used in the Q60 (assuming they’re use the same auto in the Z), but it’s soundly trashed as being much slower than ze German cars. Bugger. Carbon Fiber is the new focus apparently. Lots of investment going into that area. Not sure a new gearbox is priority. If that's the case it will probably be the GTR transmission. Pricier Auto version. 3.9 seconds pay up! Edited September 13, 2020 by GranTurismoEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 I’d suspect they’ll use the Q60 auto, purely for cost purposes and just send the manual out for reviews. No need to worry about a slower car if there’s never a bad word said about it, and arguably if you absolutely want the auto you won’t care if it’s another crappy slusher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umster Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 1 hour ago, GranTurismoEra said: from the videos ive seen without being mapped they are a tiny bit laggy. The only time ive heard of a manual being better than the auto was in the M2 but that was hearsay. Most modern automatics (bar the CVT) are actually more efficient in regards to fuel and speed than manuals. Performance depends on how aggressive its "tuned" and how acceptable its service schedule is. Golf R DSG gave me the education and experience I needed to be happy to go auto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Auto on a regular car sure, on a weekend car nope. But that’s a different argument altogether...! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Then again, I sought out a hens-teeth spec manual 520d Touring as my regular car so I guess that nullifies my own argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Ekona said: Then again, I sought out a hens-teeth spec manual 520d Touring as my regular car so I guess that nullifies my own argument I get the 5 series I get the Touring I can even get the diesel But 2.0 ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 Cheap, like budgie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted September 13, 2020 Share Posted September 13, 2020 52 minutes ago, SuperStu said: I get the 5 series I get the Touring I can even get the diesel But 2.0 ??? Tawk mate, Tawwk.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 12 hours to go.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ekona Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 These teasers are really boring now. It’s the same sodding stuff they’re showing us Roll on tomorrow and we can see what we may/may not be getting in 2021/22/23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Who's betting on same 370 with updated panels? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintopete58 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Well you don't fix something that's not broken 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, pintopete58 said: Well you don't fix something that's not broken Well you kinda do when it sold like crap and is horrendously outdated nowadays... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintopete58 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 As with alot of cars the zed is so underrated better than boxster & cayman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, pintopete58 said: As with alot of cars the zed is so underrated better than boxster & cayman the only way a Z is better than a Porker is on the price. Given the choice of the two I would bet most people would go with the Porker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pintopete58 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Do your history on the engine cayman have a very poor engine build so in my eyes do you buy the badge or the quality. This is fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, SuperStu said: Who's betting on same 370 with updated panels? Thats what it is. As stated at the beginning of the thread. The 'insider'/shareholder story. A heavy facelift....only way it was approved. Edited September 15, 2020 by GranTurismoEra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GranTurismoEra Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 30 minutes ago, pintopete58 said: As with alot of cars the zed is so underrated better than boxster & cayman Lol Thats Porsche though. They could recycle and get away with it. Hell the car could look the same for 25 years but whos counting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 11 minutes ago, pintopete58 said: Do your history on the engine cayman have a very poor engine build so in my eyes do you buy the badge or the quality. This is fun Do your own research and you’ll see that the failure rate for the IMS on the M97 was about 5%, not exactly ideal but blown way out of proportion. In every single other aspect the 987 blows the 350/370 out of the water. And let’s not mention the difference in quality between the comparable 981 and 370, especially when the Porker has zero engine issues... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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