nissanman312 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) I just wanted to share something I have found running these as others may want to try before they buy if they can. So since I fitted these I have had a what can only be described as a funny left to right wriggle sensation. It is very strange it's not all the time and seems to be worse over undulating surfaces and changing lanes etc I have been all over the car spanner checked all of the suspension and was at a loss as what to look at next Anyway on Friday I bit the bullet and called centre gravity to see if they could look over the car for me as they set the car up a little over a year ago and it felt extremely planted and tracked down the road beautifully. I spoke to Pete who set the car up big shout out to them for giving me the time of day they are super busy and he took the time out of his lunch to call and talk through things He asked me what I had changed and i said the only change made was the mps4s and as soon as i said that he was pretty sure of the problem. He then proceeded to tell me that he had 3 cars in that week all complaining of identical symptoms one was a 997 c2 one was a 991 gt3 and I cant remember the other but he said all 3 had fitted 4s tyres. He said one felt so lose he came back after the test drive and double checked everything He said he changed the wheels on the 2s to a set with a different tyre and the sensation was gone He advised that in his opinion it was the multi compound tred blocks and the tred blocks being quite high and thought that it would settle down as the tyres wear he said ultimately they are awesome tyres I mentioned I was running the quaife diff and he thought that could be compounding the issue if the diff was trying to shuffle power around on the rear The tred blocks are very soft you can almost move them with your fingers. Dont get me wrong compared to the Bridgestone that were awfull and would just snap at grip limit the grip is epic but I just thought this was a characteristic people may want to know about if considering using these tyres. Edited March 16, 2019 by nissanman312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Muxlow Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 I have a friend who has put them on her 350z and she says she doesn't have any confidence in them at all. she also says they are nowhere near as good as the mpss they replaced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Andy_Muxlow said: I have a friend who has put them on her 350z and she says she doesn't have any confidence in them at all. she also says they are nowhere near as good as the mpss they replaced. Interesting mate I have way way more confidence in them than the Bridgestone run flats that were on my car they would just let go and snap but they are definitely a soft tyre that have this strange characteristic to them it's quite unsettling at times like the wheels want to fall off lol Edited March 16, 2019 by nissanman312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Muxlow Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, nissanman312 said: Interesting mate I have way way more confidence in them than the Bridgestone run flats that were on my car but they are definitely a soft tyre that have this strange characteristic to them it's quite unsettling at times like the wheels want to fall off lol yeah she says they seem to squirm about iirc in corners and stuff. quite odd indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted March 16, 2019 Author Share Posted March 16, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Andy_Muxlow said: yeah she says they seem to squirm about iirc in corners and stuff. quite odd indeed. The mpss felt hard then got sticky with heat these just feel soft from the get go I wouldn't want anyone to be put off as such they are awesome when not wobbling about lol Edited March 16, 2019 by nissanman312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted March 16, 2019 Share Posted March 16, 2019 Later this month I have X2 front mps4 to replace my mps3 on my 18' RAYS, so hopefully don't suffer the same experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I have them now and was previously on MPSS. It's definitely a different sensation, but I've not yet got them super warm due you the weather. With all tyres if you back off at all because you don't feel as confident you will likely induced some understeer as you come off the gas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350Butcher Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) Must say for all I’ve read about Michelin’s and how good they are I’ve never got on with them when I’ve driven cars with them fitted Interesting info and sounds like a good point to share. There’s more to a tyre than just outright grip and you’ve got to have confidence if you’re pushing on. Edited March 17, 2019 by 350Butcher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I think it’s very important to distinguish between the 4 and the 4S, they’re hugely different tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 Pretty sure no one thus far has mixed the two up..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Ekona said: I think it’s very important to distinguish between the 4 and the 4S, they’re hugely different tyres. It's the 4s I have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, 350Butcher said: Must say for all I’ve read about Michelin’s and how good they are I’ve never got on with them when I’ve driven cars with them fitted Interesting info and sounds like a good point to share. There’s more to a tyre than just outright grip and you’ve got to have confidence if you’re pushing on. That's the weird thing when leaning on them they are great and on most road surfaces wet or dry they are great but when new at least over certain surfaces they definitely feel a bit unsettled I'll report back if like Pete at cg thinks they will settle down once the tred depth is a bit less Edited March 17, 2019 by nissanman312 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 5 hours ago, davey_83 said: Pretty sure no one thus far has mixed the two up..... You did, when you started mentioning MPS4 in a thread about the MPS4S! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted March 17, 2019 Author Share Posted March 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, Ekona said: You did, when you started mentioning MPS4 in a thread about the MPS4S! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 In the hope that I don't experience the same feelings on the sister tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 You won’t, because it’s a completely different tyre in every single way. Well, apart from the word Michelin on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted March 17, 2019 Share Posted March 17, 2019 I’m completely confused now ffs , what’s the best ‘street’ tyre? MPS4, or the MPS4S? Need some rears for my summer set, which has MPSS on at the minute (fronts and rears have @ 4mm tread, fronts probs more actually) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashback Posted March 18, 2019 Share Posted March 18, 2019 MPS4S are better than the MPS4. They do feel different to MPSS and that is something to think about but they have excellent grip, I think you just have to 'unlearn MPSS feel' a bit when you swap. From the few thousand miles I've done on the MPS4S tyres. They have excellent wet and dry grip, a slightly softer ride and less road noise than MPSS. They do feel slightly more lively but it just feels like a very slight but controlled bit of drift. They are supposed to last a fair bit longer than MPSS too. After that I guess it's up to your own personal choice. I like both tyres but have 20k plus miles experience on my old MPSS so need a bit of time on the new ones before I can give a better view. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris370 Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 really interesting read but leaves me confused on what to put on my car next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 19s, go for MPS4S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShortPaul Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 3 hours ago, Ekona said: 19s, go for MPS4S. Dan what would you recommend on a 20 inch rims on a zed? I know you are a good man to as, I know 20 inch rims aren't for everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Including me It’s actually an interesting question, given Michelin’s sporty tyres tendency to have stiff sidewalls which exacerbate the issue of a poor ride using heavy wheels. That said, the Zeds are sports coupes which allows for a certain amount of compromise, so it won’t come as any surprise when I say that the MPS4S is exactly where you should be looking as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 I've had no issues with the MPS4S. Seem great to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pudzee Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 All those running the MPS4S on the 370z GT with the 19" rays alloys, what sizes are you running front and rear. Seen as you can't get the MPS4S for the 245/40 R19 fronts, I've read people are running 255/35 R19 fronts with 285/35 R19 rears instead of the 275/35. So my question is what alternative size MPS4S tyre sizes can you run on the stock non Nismo 19" without messing up the sensors on the ABS etc. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ian9r Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 You can get the MPS4S1 in the standard fitment front. I wish I knew for sure they are similar enough to be a good match with MPS4S on the rear but am going to find out soon as I've just ordered them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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