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I have a real hankering for a 4c at the moment and is on the radar, very surprised it came out on top (although not by much), just a remap takes it from 240 to 280hp which is the most you can get from the standard ecus and a pretty healthy jump, by all accounts the ecu for the gearbox will not accept any more power than 280hp from the main ecu, a race ecu and you are up to 320hp, hyrbid turbo 340hp and twin scroll 380hp + all on std internals.

 

Alfawerks are developing a crank to take it to 2.0l or you can forge a std one, being that its just the aluminium Giulietta engine you could pick one up from a scapppy for 50p and forge away in the background.

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i share the opinion that this is becoming more of a potential future buy with the prices to have slightly dropped now good examples mid £30ks

 

On the UK forums they say that its reliable as anything quoting high mileage figs from US users across the pond but that may be Alfa owners viewing things from the perspective of a bit of bias.

 

One thing is for sure - that servicing at Alfaworks is a must for this specialist car as the main network is p poor

 

Additional Pros: Buy a good one mid 30ks and really won't be difficult to sell on/depreciate much , fuel economy, looks good in any colour/spec level (silver seems popular in London but not my fav)

 

The biggest thing holding me back is the lack of luggage space. I might get bashed for this but I think one solution to make this car more practically viable to put a boot rail/boot bag as per the following links. If it were my 4C I would wrap the boot in PPF/vinyl then attach the rail so as to avoid any any possible marks that may arise due to it. Then attach a holdall using rope for when you need to carry extra items like the food shop. The following web site has the rail that I would use http://revo-rack.com/language/en/convertible-luggage-rack/alfa-romeo-spider-luggage-rack/

 

The website says that the width of the rail is 36" and on 4C forums the interior width is about 29" but it is the actual width of the external boot lid you need and I think it might just fit tbh Alternatively there are boot bags going on ebay for the 4C:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Alfa-Romeo-4c-Spider-Luggage-Rack-Deck-Rack-boot-bag-original-/173553702155

 

Interesting side note is that prior to getting the 370z Nismo I explored this luggage solution but the overall design of the slope at the rear and spoiler positioning allows no roof to secure a bag/rail

 

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I read that anyone over 6 foot struggles for leg room. Also at low speeds the steering is tough, Not an issue as the 350Z even with power steering was tough. Theres one on there right now for £28,500 but its accident damage rear driver side wheel and arms were damaged. Hard sell that one

 

Theres a company that does them as rentals. Maybe you can try it for a day or few hours.

 

 

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I think its a manageable car tbh. Lol at the thread starting all about its performance capabilities and then I chime in and you see luggage storage solutions ha. 

 

Would like to know if anyone has noticed a visual difference between the two reds on offer ; ones a £2k option that I don't think people will pay a premium for - could be wrong. Advise to avoid the pastel yellow or maybe these will be going cheaper as hard to shift

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The two reds are worlds apart, one is a flat red, one is a three stage metallic similar to the 8c and no they wont pay premium but it will likely be more desirable but an absolute b*tch to match should you damage it, by putting luggage on the back :lol:

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55 minutes ago, Jetpilot said:

The two reds are worlds apart, one is a flat red, one is a three stage metallic similar to the 8c and no they wont pay premium but it will likely be more desirable but an absolute b*tch to match should you damage it, by putting luggage on the back :lol:

I think the yellow spiders might be the bargain buy even if its only marginal ; newer models and prob harder to shift for sellers

 

I spotted this one last yr. Didn't really look like a "stunning" red to me and the rims weren't my fav. Do you know which one it is?

 

 

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lol time to start 3D printing better wheels then? 

 

My bro managed to fit as passenger and hes 6'3. He said it might get claustrophobic on a journey longer than an hour 

 

Bag on the outside just gotta shake your head at that. 

 

Use the passengers lap as storage. 

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15 hours ago, un1eash said:

Same size boot as an Elise, never needed any more as always thought it was decent in size. 

Only thing I don't like about the 4C is there's no manual option. 

I must admit i agree, never really struggled with the boot size in the VX220, it was enough for a helmet and bag of clothes to last a week or so, how much further you realistically going to go in one. A mate of mine went touring in France in an Atom, he just travelled light! I suppose coming from bikes where a tank bank and rucksack was about as good as it got, luggage space has never been a thought.

 

Regarding manual option i would presume with such a low volume production it was one or the other, whilst i am sure they could have just used the gearbox from a Guiletta it would have increased production costs to have a different production line for the alterations necessary.

 

There is rumour of a new 4c (or so the salesman told me), so maybe this was a trial run and the next version will be a better version with that manual option, but maybe the low sales havent encouraged them to forge ahead or maybe not if this is anything to go by!

 

https://www.evo.co.uk/alfa-romeo/4c/20544/alfa-romeo-mulls-4c-replacement-and-a-new-giulietta

 

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https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/alfa-romeo-4c-coupe-future-uncertain

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