Keyser Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) Just a quick update on Plan X I thought I'd see how well the Pop shell would fit on the new chassis - Almost just need to weld it in place So problems to be overcome - It needs lengthening and widening - to be expected. The bottom 3" to 6" of the shell are missing - The inner and outer sills are missing - I'm learning how the Pop shells work now The rear arches that came with my shell are not a good fit They are fibre glass 2" extended arches and apart from poor fitment (which I can sort) the biggest problem is I don't like them They are too rounded. more designed for the classic Rod look - not the look I actually want So I started looking up replacement parts and was into 3 figures in just wings and sills so I started looking for alternatives, Given what I'm trying to do the best solution would be a donor car (plan x) then I can cut and shut panels to lengthen and widen as well as replace the metal lost to tin worm. This weekend I collected it Few pics from the advert - Yes I found another "unfinished project" It has been modified by a garage (not that it matters) and has the standard narrowed Jag rear, rover V8 and Triumph Spitfire front end all of which will be back on eBay soon along with that steering wheel It also came with spares - And a log book The best bit is that the body is in way better condition than mine! Apart from some dents and scratches, most likely from storage and transportation the metal work is pretty good for a 64 year old car!!!!! So I'm going to strip it down and cut it up then use the panels from the blue one to make up the difference - well that's the plan at least More Soon..................... Keyser Maximum Effort Edited June 11, 2019 by Keyser 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 And in Other News - The Radical came in to have the manual shift put back in ready for the next track day in a couple of weeks, I also had a Doh! moment - I was in a hurry to roll the Radical off the trailer between rain showers on Saturday and forgot to remove the "fuel pods" which are two 20l fuel can carriers that hook onto the either side of the trailer, this promptly snapped both wing mirrors off!! Don't worry I already feel enough of a muppet for doing it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Anyway they are like motorbike wing mirrors on stalks so it's a ball bearing with a threaded bar coming off it that bolts to the bottom of the stalk - that's what snapped so ..... Drill and tap holes in a ball bearing - Take an M6 bolt, cut in half, weld together and sand down Job done I used M6 as the originals were M5 and they go into aluminium stalks which I had to drill the broken stud out of so I re-tapped 1mm oversized. In other, other news - I started to strip down the old chassis table as it is now finished with and in the way, Time to up cycle I cut it into lengths and welded them back together Added some legs Then tried to work out a design for the wheels Everything was tacked and the concept seems to work but one of my welds broke and the wheels came off This is still a work in progress but so far it is all recycled material, if it works I will show you what it is for as it is supposed to be more than just a welding table Keyser Maximum Effort 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veeg33 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 That steering wheel is ace!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, veeg33 said: That steering wheel is ace!! Make me an offer - it would great in a Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy james Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Awesome update buddy. Will pop over in the next couple of weeks to take a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veeg33 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyser said: Make me an offer - it would great in a Z I like my steering controls i'll give it a miss, thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I love this thread...just the tinkering and engineering....love it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 How do you even find all these random cars The new shell looks in good nick, not worth using that instead? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Good idea on finding a better shell. That Ford Pop I used to own was similarly missing the bottom 5 inches all around from rot. I do wonder though if your Pop will end up looking more like a scaled up Legends car, rather than a Ford Pop when its finished? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, LRF4N said: How do you even find all these random cars The new shell looks in good nick, not worth using that instead? eBay, Gumtree and keep my ear to the ground so to speak - Wait until you see what I picked up today It will be the main car now my "old" shell will become the donor. 1 hour ago, rabbitstew said: Good idea on finding a better shell. That Ford Pop I used to own was similarly missing the bottom 5 inches all around from rot. I do wonder though if your Pop will end up looking more like a scaled up Legends car, rather than a Ford Pop when its finished? Yup it seems common on them they go at the bottom and along the roof gutter/drip tray, you can literally buy the bottom 6"s of a pop in replacement panels, but not the gutter strip - no one makes them. Yup I worry it may end up looking like a Chrysler PT Cruiser more than a legend or a Pop for that matter - they have huge arches where I intend to widen the body at the back, the front may need huge arches though - only time will tell. Edited June 11, 2019 by Keyser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, Keyser said: Yup I worry it may end up looking like a Chrysler PT Cruiser ..... Ah, good point, it may well do thinking of it. Maybe colour scheme & style of wheels can help that. Go for an old Ford colour etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, rabbitstew said: Ah, good point, it may well do thinking of it. Maybe colour scheme & style of wheels can help that. Go for an old Ford colour etc. Did Ford ever do a Lime Green Pop then ??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Just realised I saw one of these at Scottish performance show, and here’s another rusty hot rod for inspiration. On saying that, the now donor car would look cooler 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATTAK Z Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I'm pretty sure the Ford colour was called Canterbury Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 21 minutes ago, ATTAK Z said: I'm pretty sure the Ford colour was called Canterbury Green Far to reserved for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Keyser said: Far to reserved for me In your face green is what you normally have 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 11, 2019 Author Share Posted June 11, 2019 So this happened today ........................... I popped into my local scrap yard hoping to buy a bit of plate steel for the top of the new welding table, I wanted something the same size and about 6-8mm thick, They don't have that light wait stuff but they did get me a piece bigger than I needed and a LOT thicker than I needed - It's like 12mm thick!!! This table will have it's own gravity However they asked why I wanted it as I usually get small light weight stuff, I told them I was building a welding table - "Ahh you want a welding table" they say "we have one even has a vice on it" Now I have been looking at getting another vice for my welding table and they are expensive I actually want an old one as they are better IMO they can take the abuse, any way they show me this table and it's huge but they are asking less than I would be paying for a new vice. I nip home measure the garage work out where I can fit it (after a complete change of plan for the table I'm building and all my current tools stand setups). I let them know I'll take it and pop over to Tim's as he happens to have access to his dad's plant trailer which I borrow and I now have this outside The Zed Shed II With vice As an added bonus it also had this - No handle but I can sort that Most people are asking - How are you going to get it off - Simple I have no idea I'll work something out I'm sure Keyser Maximum Effort 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Pretty sure the Mk1 Escort sport came in a line metallic green 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Le mans green: http://www.appreciating-classics.com/car/ford-escort-rs-mexico/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 I like that colour Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattross1313 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Keyser said: I like that colour Colin Shocker 14 hours ago, Keyser said: As an added bonus it also had this Which is what when it's at home? Edited June 12, 2019 by mattross1313 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ebized Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 52 minutes ago, mattross1313 said: Shocker Which is what when it's at home? Not the right shade of green but here is one https://www.gumtree.com/p/other-hand-tools/elliott-and-samson-hand-guilotine-/1327149500 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 12, 2019 Author Share Posted June 12, 2019 55 minutes ago, mattross1313 said: Which is what when it's at home? What @Ebized Said - Come on Matt get with the program 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veeg33 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Looks like you got another new project new welding table and vise to refurb/restore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyser Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 Quick update - The table is in the garage First job was to get the other table top or steel plate off, not sure why they loaded it with a fork lift, all you need is an @Beb to lift it off (Sorry Beb I forgot to Photoshop the cable out At this point Beb had to leave so I ended up at this point with the table - The rest was far to dangerous (stupid) to take pics but the end result was ........ started to strip it down starting with the draws Don't think they have been opened in a while But it did have a CD took the old wooden side off and the vice Next thing to do is see if I can sort the slight sag in the top longways front to back More on that soon but this is evening work so only a couple of hours a night. Keyser Maximum Effort 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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