88 Zed Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Are there any supra experts on here? I have some questions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 What are the questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 I'd like to know how compatible the different engines, gearboxes and chassis are. if I bought an automatic non turbo for a few grand then later on source the twin turbo engine and a manual gearbox, would it be a relatively simple job? Ive always wanted a supra and I've noticed the prices are shooting up, probably due to the fact that they will soon be exportable to the US and worth a lot more. would it be advisable to just buy one with the manual box and 2jz GTE or find a cheap rust free N/A auto and upgrade as and when I find the parts? Also is there a difference between the 2jz GTE in the supra and the Toyota aristo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 Anybody.......? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Speak to Jurgen at JM Imports. He'll keep you right on all questions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Would cost you way more in the long run, the engine and box fetch premium, let alone all the work necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 USA already has Supras, the price increase isnt due to them becoming eligible to import to the USA like the GTR is, the price oncrease is across the board with the majority of the 'Legendary' JDM cars. If you buy an NA car, just NA-T its much easier and cheaper and you an get decent power out of them also. The gearbox is where the money is, I sold mine second hand with 161K miles on it for £3K. The price of engines is starting to go up also due to the 2J being a popular swap these days. You could always use a Z gearbox, adaptor kits with clutch and flywheel are around £1500. 2J in the Supra and Aristo are the same, I think all aristo's are VVTI though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted September 10, 2017 Author Share Posted September 10, 2017 34 minutes ago, Ian said: USA already has Supras, the price increase isnt due to them becoming eligible to import to the USA like the GTR is, the price oncrease is across the board with the majority of the 'Legendary' JDM cars. If you buy an NA car, just NA-T its much easier and cheaper and you an get decent power out of them also. The gearbox is where the money is, I sold mine second hand with 161K miles on it for £3K. The price of engines is starting to go up also due to the 2J being a popular swap these days. You could always use a Z gearbox, adaptor kits with clutch and flywheel are around £1500. 2J in the Supra and Aristo are the same, I think all aristo's are VVTI though Do the N/A engines require more strengthening ? They are a shorter bore stroke as well aren't they? What are the gearboxes in them like compared to the Zeds? I don't mind the work involved in swapping stuff over, in fact I'd prefere to build it myself if I'm honest! im just worried the window for me affording one is getting smaller, especially with the way the government is going on its "emissions war" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 By the time you have spent the money you may as well buy a turbo kit or better still LS Swap it, easy DIY with this kit https://www.tarmacsportz.co.uk/brands/sikky-manufacturing-uk-store/sikky-nissan-350z-z33-lsx-swap-kit-stage-1.html I have a twin turbo supra but by no means and expert, but I can tell you everything is expensive and most things are getting discontinued now so prices are rising even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Also might be worth joining MKIV Supra owners club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 4 hours ago, Tarmac@TarmacSportz said: By the time you have spent the money you may as well buy a turbo kit or better still LS Swap it, easy DIY with this kit https://www.tarmacsportz.co.uk/brands/sikky-manufacturing-uk-store/sikky-nissan-350z-z33-lsx-swap-kit-stage-1.html I have a twin turbo supra but by no means and expert, but I can tell you everything is expensive and most things are getting discontinued now so prices are rising even more. This is true but there is something about the 2JZ supras that keeps bringing me back to autotrader and the forums! I cant help it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 12 hours ago, 88 Zed said: This is true but there is something about the 2JZ supras that keeps bringing me back to autotrader and the forums! I cant help it! They are awesome, but the money you would put into a zed you may as well just buy a Supra while they are still affordable-ish, would be a lot smarter way to spend the cash as the Supra value is going one way (up) and a 350z with a 2jz engine would go the other way. I've seen a few 2JZ builds and people have either given up or lost the love when they hit about 20k worth of spends.. Having said that if its your passion and money then go for it, the 2JZ world doesn't seem a hive of activity judging by the forums and facebook pages i'm on though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereboy Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/toyota/supra/toyota-supra-mk-iv-1994-na-t/7682232 10 Big ones for a NA to Turbo converted Auto here.... Nice and clean looking too! Always loved the look of the Supra, so much road presence in the flesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Tarmac@TarmacSportz said: They are awesome, but the money you would put into a zed you may as well just buy a Supra while they are still affordable-ish, would be a lot smarter way to spend the cash as the Supra value is going one way (up) and a 350z with a 2jz engine would go the other way. I've seen a few 2JZ builds and people have either given up or lost the love when they hit about 20k worth of spends.. Having said that if its your passion and money then go for it, the 2JZ world doesn't seem a hive of activity judging by the forums and facebook pages i'm on though He's not swapping it into a z thats reserved for idiots like me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, Ian said: He's not swapping it into a z thats reserved for idiots like me Ahh- sorry should have read it more thoroughly OP - You can get a NA Turbo for about £9k, Personally I think the TT Auto's are a better option for similar money There are some bargains still to be had, I got a good deal on a pretty rare Auto TT with aero top in baltic blue, just needs a few quid and some elbow grease spending on it to make it mint again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 *and a manual gearbox. If you leave that thing as an auto, I shall have to disown you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, Ekona said: *and a manual gearbox. If you leave that thing as an auto, I shall have to disown you! I prefer it as auto, i'm not a sheep Manual gear boxes are over rated, I did consider this but when I added up everything I needed to do it and it was over £12k I decided against it lol http://www.garagewhifbitz.co.uk/garage-whifbitz-flappy-paddle-kit.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 WAT Mods, I call for a ban. Outrageous behaviour! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share Posted September 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Tarmac@TarmacSportz said: Ahh- sorry should have read it more thoroughly OP - You can get a NA Turbo for about £9k, Personally I think the TT Auto's are a better option for similar money There are some bargains still to be had, I got a good deal on a pretty rare Auto TT with aero top in baltic blue, just needs a few quid and some elbow grease spending on it to make it mint again I've never been a fan of the TTs, or automatics to be honest! And yes I've seen a few N/A turbo conversions buttttt this leads to my origional question........Are N/A engines the same as the GTEs? apart from the obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glrnet Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 hours ago, Ekona said: WAT Mods, I call for a ban. Outrageous behaviour! At least he has a Japanese car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I have an Impreza Get back to your wine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoogyRev Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ekona said: I have an Impreza Get back to your wine! isn't that your Wife car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 What's hers is mine etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 Although don't tell her I said that... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 13 hours ago, 88 Zed said: I've never been a fan of the TTs, or automatics to be honest! And yes I've seen a few N/A turbo conversions buttttt this leads to my origional question........Are N/A engines the same as the GTEs? apart from the obvious. Short answer.... no http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?63029-Internal-differenses-2JZ-turbo-and-2JZ-non-turbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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