Colin747 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just wondering has anyone had the rear carbon arches fitted? Just looking some info into how difficult the process is or if any professional bodyshop be able to fit them without problems? These are the ones I'm talking about for reference - http://seiboncarbon.co.uk/products/carbon-fiber-rear-fenders-for-2002-2005-nissan-350z.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake.Lowther Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 If memory servs me well, I believe they're just spot welded onto the frame of the car. These spot welds just have to ground away, have no clue how they'd be attached unless they come with brackets since you can't weld carbon fibre (contrary to what some believe hehe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 They'll just be bonded on, Colin. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin747 Posted June 21, 2017 Author Share Posted June 21, 2017 Cheers guys, I have a rusty arch and was thinking of replacing both wings with carbon ones but if the second skin still remains I guess it doesn't really fix the issue and that could just rust through underneath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jords Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I looked into this at one point, and was told to have a look into them. I opted for standard arches in the end, but they can be done. The old needs removing and the siebon arches will need to be put on with adhesive and/or riveted on. They can be painted. They are a **** to work with but it can be done by a bodyshop that have worked with carbon before. The arches are good as the seams are under the boot lid where they can't be seen very well. The only issue you would have is where the inner arch meets the outer. Again this can be sorted and sealed up by someone who knows what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jords Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Oh and also there would be some careful work sealing around the petrol flap to make sure it looks gold after the old has been cut off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin747 Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 I'm guessing from reading your reply that it would work out more expensive to do that than it would to just replace the metal with a new genuine panel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jords Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 I can't remember the prices exactly, but the wings from nissan themselves were coming in at between 5-600 per side. They do not do returns on them and I'm damn sure you wouldn't get any warranty (that they wouldn't just get out of). Carbon fibre would be great, but it is expensive. It's a hard place to be in for you, may I ask how bad is the rust that your battling with? Only other alternative is to go wide arch, as you have to cut the old arch lip off mostly. However it doesn't remedy any rust between the wing and rear bumper.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin747 Posted June 22, 2017 Author Share Posted June 22, 2017 This would be the worst patch on the offside rear wing, there are two other thumb nail sized patches towards the rear of the arch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jords Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 Personally I would be living with it and sell the car on when ready, or get hold of a new arch (possibly a perfect second hand arch to cut patches from. I'd say it's around a 1200 quid job including a new arch Or 5-600 quid job of a bodyshop cuts out the rust (including a donor arch or welding in new metal). I had mine done almost immediately after buying it, had the arches fully stripped back, zinc primed and cavity waxoyl injected to stop any rust from starting. 2 years later, all the bad weather and salt from 2 winters and it's been 100percent perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin747 Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 I'm really not sure what to do to be honest, part of me is thinking of just selling it and the other part is considering just keeping it for a couple of years and selling it for an HR car (If I do get another 350 I'll definitely copy what you've got done to avoid this happening again). I'm guessing there was a previous half assed repair done on the car as when I bought it in January that arch was perfect and it's went to that state over the last few months. I'm wondering will it continue to get worse or will it slow down after a while once it's came back to the extent that it was at when the repair was done? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jords Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 It does sound like it if it's rapidly gone like that over a few months. The zeds are getting to be well known for rusty arches. It's where the inner and outer arches meet as they are spot welded so they start to develop rust easily. When I viewed a few they all had something on the rear arches, some worse than others. It can get worse quickly, especially in winter so I would make a call on it sooner rather than later. Plus the market for 2 seater sports cars is at its best coming into summer if you decided to sell. Im not sure but I would guess the later HR models will eventually see rust in the same places. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin747 Posted June 23, 2017 Author Share Posted June 23, 2017 Thanks for your help, I'll get a few quotes from places and go from there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jords Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 (edited) Try and find a car restoration Specialist, maybe a classic car place that would be willing to take it on. Places like them are used to a bit of rust and aren't scared of it. There's a few places over your way. Good luck! Edited June 23, 2017 by Jords 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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