gangzoom Posted June 14, 2017 Author Share Posted June 14, 2017 seats insurance team will be crying when they see the bill to fix it! very lucky! Likely need new battery as that killed it self on the spot to prevent any fires, whole rear suspension + motor, lots of labour and paint shop costs, hire car costs (in the process of getting a Tesla as the repair will take weeks to months). Final claim will be way over £50k and may even be close to the value of the car!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Glad to hear your all ok, cars can be fixed, family can't. Not impressed at how that wheel has failed so badly, that looks pretty brittle. 2.5 ton car doing 30mph spun around 180 degrees, add in the fulcrum effect initial energy of impact of the wheel against the kerb would have been massive. Any other SUV would have flipped, instead the X just gouged a hole in the concrete!! I guess when you know the car is going to weigh a lot you can throw a load more support into the structure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 https://www.engadget.com/2017/06/13/tesla-model-x-earns-a-perfect-nhtsa-safety-rating/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrG13 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 seats insurance team will be crying when they see the bill to fix it! very lucky! Likely need new battery as that killed it self on the spot to prevent any fires, whole rear suspension + motor, lots of labour and paint shop costs, hire car costs (in the process of getting a Tesla as the repair will take weeks to months). Final claim will be way over £50k and may even be close to the value of the car!! no amount of money can pay for the fact everyone left with breath still in their lungs! still in complete awe about that alloy though! these cars are truly a master class of engineering and shock absorption! its staggering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipar69 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Ouch. Pleased to hear you're ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350 Russ Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Only repeating what has been said already but glad no one was injured regardless of fault. As there is a massive waiting list on these and god forbid yours gets written off what do you plan on doing then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy1980 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Glad to hear your all ok, cars can be fixed, family can't. Not impressed at how that wheel has failed so badly, that looks pretty brittle. 2.5 ton car doing 30mph spun around 180 degrees, add in the fulcrum effect initial energy of impact of the wheel against the kerb would have been massive. Any other SUV would have flipped, instead the X just gouged a hole in the concrete!! True, need to remember those batteries have a bit of mass behind them.. Just surprised it was a total failure and not just a severe twist or deformation, I suppose it depends on the % of each component in the alloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Are you allowed to post the dashcam footage? I'd like to see it please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un1eash Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 That sucks big time, looks like the wheel and drive train took a lot of the impact. Will you be getting a Tesla hire car? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Be careful with the hire car - my neighbour had his Rangie smashed whilst parked by a delivery lorry, loads of witnesses and his car was parked and he wasnt in it when it happened so 100% lorry drivers fault. Anyway he was pushed by the insurance company to accept a Range Rover Vogue to use whilst his was fixed which cost thousands, anyway the insurance company for the other party then challenged it about 6 months later putting lots of pressure on him as to why he needed such a large expensive vehicle as cover etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Be careful with the hire car - my neighbour had his Rangie smashed whilst parked by a delivery lorry, loads of witnesses and his car was parked and he wasnt in it when it happened so 100% lorry drivers fault. Anyway he was pushed by the insurance company to accept a Range Rover Vogue to use whilst his was fixed which cost thousands, anyway the insurance company for the other party then challenged it about 6 months later putting lots of pressure on him as to why he needed such a large expensive vehicle as cover etc. I'd go back with "Why did your client need to crash into my vehicle? Why should my standard of living be reduced whilst you put me back to the situation I was in before your client decided to crash into my vehicle." Probably wouldn't get me anywhere, but I'd feel better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Yeah wouldnt really have much legal clout behind it that statement no I guess they just say accidents happen and its in everyone's interest to look after the costs of resolving the situation (as pointed out excessive claims just mean higher premiums for all of us in the long term) - I am pretty sure as gutted as he might be GZs standard of living is hardly going to be thrown into turmoil by having to use a Nissan or Honda SUV for a few weeks Insurance isn't free money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leonk Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 It's not so much the like for like vehicle hire replacement but the extortionate hire charge bills these accident management companies throw in. Following a non fault accident, my wife's friend had a little fiesta for 3 weeks from one of these claims companies and was shocked to see they charged nearly £700 per week with an £180 delivery and collection fee. You can rent the same car from Enterprise for £22 per day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AliveBoy Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Valid point Coldel, luckily I have enough toys that I'd just use one of those if the worst did happen My bike insurers tried to sell me uprated courtesy bike cover and seemed genuinely surprised when I pointed out it was pointless as I have two bikes on the same policy, so if something happened to one I'd just use the other. If they both got nicked I'd use the 125 that is included for free (and if they both got nicked I probably wouldn't leave the house again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Yes that is a complete rip off I agree (in terms of the fiesta example!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay84 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 As soon as a company or the government/council is picking up the bill, the prices go sky high for most things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 The replacement hire car has arrived and I have to say its good to be back in an EV . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted June 24, 2017 Author Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) So report from the garage is in, the initial impact must have been a fairly big whack because it was enough to crack the whole rear chassis and subframe!! Essentially means the car is written off Now comes the fun bit of working out what happens next. The closest car for sale on the market today similar to ours is a cool £90k and that still isn't as well specced as ours, but even so that is nearly £20k more than what ours cost. A factor fresh order with the same spec as our from Tesla now is also £90k but 4-5 months lead time, and I'll need to be kept mobile for the the duration. Both a factory fresh order/equivalent used car will have to pay higher VED rates which our car didn't need to pay, and neither will have 'free for life' supercharging which our car has. I fully expect to be compensated for both, as all this mess happened to me through no fault on my behalf and it certainly has introduced a fair amount of stress/hassel into my life. Indeed if I have to take time off work to sort any additional things that cost also need to be paid, probably to the NHS, as a locum to cover my post when am away will cost £100/hr+ which the taxpayer shouldn't have to shoulder. Eitherway this claim is fast heading towards a six figure settlement!!! Third part insure have seen the dashcam footage but cannot accept liability untill their insured changes his story.... In a way I hope he keeps up with his lie so I can see him in court face to face, and watch him explain to the judge how he managed to hit a 2.5ton SUV with so much force to crack the chassis in a 30mph zone and whilst joining a main road from a side road. Had my car rolled, am pretty sure the police would have charged him with dangerous driving, the ability of the Tesla to absorb the impact I think let him off the hook on that front. Edited June 24, 2017 by gangzoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 It's a new car, so you'll get a brand new one in return. You won't get anything back for the VED as it's a future cost so you haven't lost yet (same as with insurance premium increases), and likewise the lack of free supercharger access. You could sue at a later time once you've sold the car, but I wouldn't waste my time tbh. Why would you need to take time off work, unless injured? Plenty of people manage to get on with their lives after an accident. In terms of a courtesy car, please just get something that will work rather than the expensive equivalent: All you'll do is push everyone's premiums up otherwise. A generic estate car/small SUV will be plenty fine for a few months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un1eash Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Do you have GAP? I took replacement vehicle cover on my latest to cover any increases in price if the worse was to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Who authorised the ev hire car, your insurance company or have your personally hired it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 GAP still wouldn't cover VED or supercharger benefits, it only ever refers to the invoice price of the vehicle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un1eash Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 (edited) GAP still wouldn't cover VED or supercharger benefits, it only ever refers to the invoice price of the vehicle. No it wouldn't but it would cover the cost for replacing a £70k car with one that now costs £90k. I would of had specialist insurance to cover something like a £70k tesla. Edited June 24, 2017 by un1eash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Ah I see, sorry. That'll be covered anyway, as it's not GZ's insurance paying out it's the TP's, which means that they'll have to put him back where he was and I believe that generally speaking a car that's less than 6 months old (may even be a year) will always be replaced with a brand-new one. Certainly something as specific as a Tesla will be, any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
un1eash Posted June 24, 2017 Share Posted June 24, 2017 Its car insurance after all, even if its not your fault you never come out even and it'll always cost you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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