secretstar07979 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 In a straight line race would a super charged 350z producing 400 bhp outpace a Ford RS giving out 300 bhp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 If it's a "2010 Ford Focus RS" (2.5Ltr) that you mean then yes the supercharged Zed (with 400Bhp) should beat the RS in a straight line theoretically. The 2010 RS in standard form (300Bhp) apparently has a 0-60 of 5.7 seconds which is the same quoted performance as a standard 2003 Nissan 350Z (276Bhp). Lots of other factors though would make a difference even if like for like drivers. No idea on the power to weight ratio of the Ford which would make a difference for example as well as gear ratios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 if from a stand still and the driver can launch and shift the charged Z should win all day long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 (edited) I can say from experience. Yes. Convincingly so. Although I'm turbo not super. Edited April 23, 2017 by TT350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bounty Bar Kid Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Any real racer knows, it's not the car but the driver that makes it. Yeah I know. I live my life a quarter mile at a time 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Yes but it wouldnt be a walk over, the Ford would launch much better (4wd) than the 350 but the 1/4 mile time for the Focus is 13.4 @ 105 mph which is on par with a stock 370z (But its significantly harder to get a 2wd car off the line cleanly) I would think a supercharged 350z with a good driver could run a 12.8@112-114 http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2016-ford-focus-rs-vs-2015-subaru-wrx-sti-2016-volkswagen-golf-r-final-scoring-performance-data-and-complete-specs-page-5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The Focus RS isnt 4wd.............. ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 The Focus RS isnt 4wd.............. ^ OK all wheel drive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) It's not AWD either. Only the latest generation (2016 onward) is all wheel drive. The 2010 RS is front wheel drive, as is every other roadgoing Focus up until 2016's RS. And that is why it will lose against a stock Z, let alone one with 100 more HP. Every. Single. Time. (all else being equal) A supercharged Z will absolutely RAPE a 2010 stock RS, it won't even be a contest. 35% more power, better drivetrain layout (FR), wider tyres, less squat, longer gears, forget it...! If the Z happens to be wearing sticky 275s+ on the back, that would make it even less of a contest. Since we're on the subject, a 2016 RS (350hp AWD) would beat a stock Z fairly easily, and would probably give the supercharged one a good race (but I'd still expect a 400hp Z to beat a 350hp awd hatch, mainly due to drivetrain losses around 25% for the AWD). It would pull off the line first but the SC Z would reel it in pretty quick I reckon. Edited April 24, 2017 by Aashenfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's not AWD either. Only the latest generation (2016 onward) is all wheel drive. The 2010 RS is front wheel drive, as is every other roadgoing Focus up until 2016's RS. And that is why it will lose against a stock Z, let alone one with 100 more HP. Every. Single. Time. (all else being equal) A supercharged Z will absolutely RAPE a 2010 stock RS, it won't even be a contest. OP didnt state 2010 others assumed 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Given the current RS has more than 300bhp from the factory, I think it's safe to assume the OP wasn't talking about the mk3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It's not AWD either. Only the latest generation (2016 onward) is all wheel drive. The 2010 RS is front wheel drive, as is every other roadgoing Focus up until 2016's RS. And that is why it will lose against a stock Z, let alone one with 100 more HP. Every. Single. Time. (all else being equal) A supercharged Z will absolutely RAPE a 2010 stock RS, it won't even be a contest. OP didnt state 2010 others assumed 2010 You're right, my apologies. I assumed GM knew what he was on about! See that? Blind faith in our glorious leaders! just what a good democracy needs! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Think this video demonstrates how difficult it can be to get a 350z off the line FWIW a stock 2009 Focus RS also runs a 13.7 . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 That makes me feel better about the times I got last time I was at Pod in the BMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Anyway, for OP purposes, there is not a stock Focus in existence that could beat a 400hp 350Z at the current time, all else being equal, in a straight line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 Think this video demonstrates how difficult it can be to get a 350z off the line FWIW a stock 2009 Focus RS also runs a 13.7 . I don't disagree, though I can't see the vid at work It took me (actually, it is 'still' taking me) longer than I am used to, to get the hang of launching this car, but when done right, it's very quick off the mark. Good tyres ftw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) That makes me feel better about the times I got last time I was at Pod in the BMW Shoulda got an Xdrive My 335xi launched like nothing else I've ever experienced with around 350awhp on 255/275 mpss. Holy Christ that car was fast off the mark with zero effort, clutch up, mash gas, go to pharmacy for neck brace. Dynolicious put 0-100 at 4.4, but the really impressive thing about that car was how it went from 100 to 200. Edited April 24, 2017 by Aashenfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 645 was never available in X-drive, plus I wouldn't want 4WD anyway. Less weight ftw! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I agree the 350/370 doesn't like being launched Not that I realy bother I just know they are not the most willing to shoot off the line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 That makes me feel better about the times I got last time I was at Pod in the BMW Shoulda got an Xdrive My 335xi launched like nothing else I've ever experienced with around 350awhp on 255/275 mpss. Holy Christ that car was fast off the mark with zero effort, clutch up, mash gas, go to pharmacy for neck brace. Dynolicious put 0-100 at 4.4, but the really impressive thing about that car was how it went from 100 to 200. My latest 100 to 200 is 5.8 with a massive powerslide in 3rd gear. So I reckon can go bit more down Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 You're TT right? How many hp roughly, and what tyres? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snjur Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 You're TT right? How many hp roughly, and what tyres? 640 bhp 760 NM and Yokohama Ad08r. Twin turbo Sent from my SM-G850F using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 That must really be something. Is it still usable on the street? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Think this video demonstrates how difficult it can be to get a 350z off the line FWIW a stock 2009 Focus RS also runs a 13.7 . Rubbish a 350Z ist hard to get off the line and i ran solid 13.7 and 13.8 all day in performance wise an almost stock Z Edited April 24, 2017 by StevoD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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