DoogyRev Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 When it gets to defcon 5 and all the warning sirens are going . . trump will then swoop in, change his tune and be remembered in his mind as the POTUS who stopped WW3 . . he will quickly forget he had the poking stick in the first place DEFCON 2/1 would be sirens going off. DEFCON 5 would be an improvement over what we have now as that would mean we're back to "normal". Just being pedantic. I thought 5 was the button pressing time.... anyway you all knew what I meant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasha@lazytrips Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 It's funny how people think they'll have time to flee or escape and to where? Obviously the Russians are far too polite to to drop any pesky nukes while you're en route, right? Or say "Right UK. Get to safety because were about to drop some nasty little bombs and do watch out for the cesium 137 it has a nasty habit of knocking your DNA and cells rather out of kilter!" Returning to the topic a bit more, I'd say the UK is princely positioned as a place you'd both have to get out of and get warning to do so. If it ever came to it, US sites would be top of the list for being hit. There is a huge amount of targets, infrastructure, etc to destroy there. Nobody, not even Russia would be focused on doing that AND hitting other countries in parallel. Hence the moment Russia/other aggressor attacks the US directly (e.g. Russian fighter planes sink a US destroyer in the Med) or the other way round, I'm immediately driving to North Norway. I'd bet there would be at least 24h to get out before strikes come to the UK. More likely a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Scary stuff, am I right in thinking the fallout would be just as deadly as the blast itself? I'm not sure what's worse, living through an attack or having to chop my Zed up so it fits in with the "mad max" style! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Fallout is worse, it'll kill you over a longer period and in the most awful ways: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_radiation_syndrome Basically it destroys your body at the cellular level, until there is nothing left. Like an more spiteful version of Ebola. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Hhhmmm I think I'd prefere to be in the blast zone! Let's hope some sensible Americans decide that trump should have a heart attack or fall down the stairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaunRS Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Aw well, if it all kicks off on the plus side I will never have to watch Scottish football again. Think of the positives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly350z Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Reports on the news are saying NK have conducted a missle launch, however it has failed. Sure to say this wont help tensions at all, having given Trump all the chest puffing ammunition he needed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Does make NK look a bit silly. Big posturing, can't get it off the ground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Took a walk around Hiroshima last summer and there are lots of people with disabilities likely caused by birth defects following the bomb, I remember the fallout from Chernobyl in 1986 affecting farms in Wales , restrictions on the sheep farms lasted 26 years , any nuclear explosion will have an impact worldwide , they are no longer any use in reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay84 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Yeah but they do that every year. On the Asian news networks it gets reported a bit more detailed. China essentially gives them money to stop being silly. When the money starts to run low they missile test and get a new trade agreement. But Chinese papers are probably as reliable as our own lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88 Zed Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I can't understand why these world leaders think that it's actuall a viable option? As Richf just pointed out, the effects would be world wide, nobody's a winner if there is nowhere left to celebrate! I think EMP strikes are more likely, just as disruptful without the deadly aftermath. Imagine the chaos if Everything stopped working! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fodder Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Maybe Trumps way of dealing with Kim boy is to rattle him so much he presses the button to launch one of his fireworks with a nuclear payload only for it to explode on launch and take out half of his top brass I still honestly think this is all a deflection to help Trump out of a hole, there's alternative facts at play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 The exact same thing happens every year, and did so when Obama was in charge too. US & SK do war games in the area, NK throw a strop and whinge, war games end and everything calms down again. The only difference this time is that Trump isn't known for being calm under pressure Realistically nowt will happen, no-one will push that far as NK know they'd be wiped out in seconds and they don't really have the ability to hit anything other than SK. Fatboy Kim has the most to lose, and he knows it: He'll only ever be a mouth and def no trousers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 It's funny how people think they'll have time to flee or escape and to where? Obviously the Russians are far too polite to to drop any pesky nukes while you're en route, right? Or say "Right UK. Get to safety because were about to drop some nasty little bombs and do watch out for the cesium 137 it has a nasty habit of knocking your DNA and cells rather out of kilter!" Returning to the topic a bit more, I'd say the UK is princely positioned as a place you'd both have to get out of and get warning to do so. If it ever came to it, US sites would be top of the list for being hit. There is a huge amount of targets, infrastructure, etc to destroy there. Nobody, not even Russia would be focused on doing that AND hitting other countries in parallel. Hence the moment Russia/other aggressor attacks the US directly (e.g. Russian fighter planes sink a US destroyer in the Med) or the other way round, I'm immediately driving to North Norway. I'd bet there would be at least 24h to get out before strikes come to the UK. More likely a week. You're being extremely optimistic. If things escalated that fast, all borders would be closed and flights grounded. Again, people seem to think nuclear war is an inconvenience rather than the end of times. You'll never escape the after effects of global nuclear war mate, lol. Not even in North Norway. Or do you have a fallout shelter there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) It's funny how people think they'll have time to flee or escape and to where? Obviously the Russians are far too polite to to drop any pesky nukes while you're en route, right? Or say "Right UK. Get to safety because were about to drop some nasty little bombs and do watch out for the cesium 137 it has a nasty habit of knocking your DNA and cells rather out of kilter!" Returning to the topic a bit more, I'd say the UK is princely positioned as a place you'd both have to get out of and get warning to do so. If it ever came to it, US sites would be top of the list for being hit. There is a huge amount of targets, infrastructure, etc to destroy there. Nobody, not even Russia would be focused on doing that AND hitting other countries in parallel. Hence the moment Russia/other aggressor attacks the US directly (e.g. Russian fighter planes sink a US destroyer in the Med) or the other way round, I'm immediately driving to North Norway. I'd bet there would be at least 24h to get out before strikes come to the UK. More likely a week. You're being extremely optimistic. If things escalated that fast, all borders would be closed and flights grounded. Again, people seem to think nuclear war is an inconvenience rather than the end of times. You'll never escape the after effects of global nuclear war mate, lol. Not even in North Norway. Or do you have a fallout shelter there and a thriving underground eco system so you're not effected by the following nuclear winter? I don't think anyone's read my previous posts describing nuclear war lol. This is just ONE example of the effects of a nuclear winter, and not even using all the nukes we have in the world... "A global average surface cooling of –7 °C to –8 °C persists for years, and after a decade the cooling is still –4 °C (Fig. 2). Considering that the global average cooling at the depth of the last ice age 18,000 yr ago was about –5 °C, this would be a climate change unprecedented in speed and amplitude in the history of the human race. The temperature changes are largest over land … Cooling of more than –20 °C occurs over large areas of North America and of more than –30 °C over much of Eurasia, including all agricultural regions" No light, no warmth, massive ozone depletion, so on and so on. You can't 'hide' from essentially, the destruction of our entire planet. Are you going to go it alone and flourish after the nuclear winter abates some 20 years post war? Will you pop to the local shop now and then for some milk and bread and a newspaper? Lol. Like I said, it's funny, people think "I'll be ok, I'd just go (insert location) and just wait. I've seen all Bear Grylls episodes" I can escape the end of civilisation!! Edited April 16, 2017 by TT350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 I have seen all the Bear Gryll's episodes though I'd be fine, I've got my gang now! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 I have seen all the Bear Gryll's episodes though I'd be fine, I've got my gang now! Salvation! Can I join? I won't be any trouble, I promise. Plus I have cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Cake you say? I think that's the one key thing we're short of, so you're deffo in mate. Need your own weapon though. Don't think a flan base will cut it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Cake you say? I think that's the one key thing we're short of, so you're deffo in mate. Need your own weapon though. Don't think a flan base will cut it. I AM a weapon. Also, it's fudge cake. Look.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 Oooooh tasty noms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Innit tho, blud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly350z Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Dan, we need cake. The lone sniper approves 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted April 16, 2017 Author Share Posted April 16, 2017 He had me at fudge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 (edited) Now if only I could remember where I left my suit of T51-B! I could go on grocery runs then without fear of, well, death. Edited April 16, 2017 by TT350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly350z Posted April 16, 2017 Share Posted April 16, 2017 Now if only I could remember where I left my suit of T51-B! I could go on grocery runs then without fear of, well, death. T51? Tsk tsk. We run at least T60 or XF-01 here boyo. You'll have to make a cake for sentinel prime now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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