Ekona Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) 500hp, 347ft/lb, 0-60 3.4secs for PDK but clearly we'd all be taking the manual version at 3.9secs 9000rpm and a stick to change gear with. Aside from the slightly dodgy red trim around the wheels and on the seats, that's simply beautiful. I prefer the front of the gen1 to this one, but I'm splitting hairs really. Edited March 7, 2017 by Ekona 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xscotteex Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) The lights and that little grill make it look like a derpy smile haha Edited March 7, 2017 by xscotteex 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) HOLY COW, they really went to town on the design update this year!! Oh wait... Still, great car. 9000rpm, that's the shizz right there. Big gay wing is big and gay though. Edited March 7, 2017 by Aashenfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Still ugly, dated and not a patch on many contemporaries styling efforts. Impressive numbers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I love it but I don't love how they release these things, why they didn't just have a manual 991 to start with is weird. They are either purposely messing with the market and buyers, or just didn't think that customers wanted a choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 They didn't realise that the market for the manual was that strong, they just (wrongly) assumed everyone wanted to go as fast as possible regardless of involvement. Them bringing the manual back shows that they actual listen as a company, it's just a shame that Ferrari and Lambo don't do the same. Imagine a 2WD manual Huracan Spyder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 They didn't realise that the market for the manual was that strong, they just (wrongly) assumed everyone wanted to go as fast as possible regardless of involvement. Them bringing the manual back shows that they actual listen as a company, it's just a shame that Ferrari and Lambo don't do the same. Imagine a 2WD manual Huracan Spyder... I could...with at least half of them in walls/ditches within the first year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 They didn't realise that the market for the manual was that strong, they just (wrongly) assumed everyone wanted to go as fast as possible regardless of involvement. Them bringing the manual back shows that they actual listen as a company, it's just a shame that Ferrari and Lambo don't do the same. Imagine a 2WD manual Huracan Spyder... So you're telling me they don't know their customers then ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Oh they know their customers, they just don't want to give them a choice. They'd sell just as many even with a manual option as they limit the numbers on purpose, hell they could even charge more for the manual 'box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'm waiting to see how many mates order the new one with a manual box. If anyone orders one with PDK I'm going to throw poo at them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Needs a 3rd exhaust tip 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 I couldn't tell which was which at a glance for the last few models, maybe a good thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 I'm waiting to see how many mates order the new one with a manual box. If anyone orders one with PDK I'm going to throw poo at them Anyone with half a brain or an eye on resale will get the manual. In reality, I suspect it'll go 50/50 in terms of sales, but it depends on who the dealer picks to sell to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillisRR Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Forgive me for saying this but i would go PDK. Had a few laps in a 991 round Donington and my god it was silly SILLY fast! The PDK helped you concentrate on the task at hand. That said if it was to be used as more of a road toy then it would have to be manual but then we would all go for the turbo over a gt3? Anyone see that the turbo and gt3 set same times on test round Anglesey!! Madness!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ekona Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 See, I go the other way: PDK for the road and a manual for the track. I like the less faff on the road so I can concentrate on what's happening around me, but I want the manual for the track so I can really push my skills. I personally found PDK boring on track, but each to their own. Certainly your way round makes more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobPhoboS Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Yeah I've been in a few RS's too, and yeah they are fast with PDK but for the rest of the time when you want to drive on the road.. I'd rather have manual. And on track, I'd rather have manual. I just want manual ok. Edited March 7, 2017 by RobPhoboS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattross1313 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 New Every 911 GT3 Fixed this for you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Hey, it works for Aston Martin! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay84 Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Linking your 2 threads Dan, maybe they should do an exchange programme with Honda's designers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillisRR Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Ahh yeah I do see your point! I guess it depends on how much traffic you are planning to get stuck in! Autos for dailys all day LONG! Yeah i get what you mean about manuals on track but i can't lie, if you asked me to drive a lap without throttle matching H&T I honestly wouldn't have a clue what to do. It's something I do without thinking now. We are taking a group of friends to Blyton soon so they can have a go of the MX5 (trying to get them the track bug) and it suddenly dawned on me that they wont know how to H&T and i wont have a clue how to teach them anything without and a first track day isn't the place to teach them that technique haha! Maybe the synchros will just take a bashing! Rather worn synchros on a mx5 than a manual 991.2 . Edited March 7, 2017 by WillisRR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 7, 2017 Author Share Posted March 7, 2017 Linking your 2 threads Dan, maybe they should do an exchange programme with Honda's designers. Maybe they already have: That's where the designers of the first gen Cayenne and the 996 ended up 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Every car with a clutch has launch control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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