FitmentJunkie Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 I did post this on the Facebook group but got no answers, so hopefully get a bit more luck here copied from facebook Not sure what sort of help I will get here but I have a question about tie rod ends. My previous jap car ran dual wishbone, so I'm in new territory here 🖒 I'm having my upper arms modified to give more negative camber, but on my previous car I had the issue of the hub carrier connecting with the coilovers on cornering. So I'm going to have the two lower arms extended. Now I've not took my wheels off yet as I'm still awaiting my coilovers to come from BC but am I right to assume the tie rod ends may not reach? And it's the tie rod ends which adjust to set the toe and castor, If I buy uprated would there be more adjustability to extend them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 The tie rod ends (steering rack) only adjust the toe. You can fit adjustable after market upper arms with out all the other stuff that you are referring to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitmentJunkie Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Yes I know.... I have aftermarket upper arms which are being modified to possibly double the amount of negative camber capacity but that won't be enough, so I wish to also push the bottom out by cutting and extending the 2 lower arms. I'm assuming once this is done the tie rod ends won't reach the hub, so I'm asking if uprated/aftermarket ones have more room for adjustment or modification to extend them. I'm not going crazy, probably going to extend the arm that the shock bolts too by about 15mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZMANALEX Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 Sounds crazy to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitmentJunkie Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Id rather avoid the hub carrier hitting the coilovers this time round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargara Posted February 23, 2017 Share Posted February 23, 2017 (edited) ... Why would you cut and push the bottom out? What are you trying to achieve, a 4x4? (edit) Nevermind I think i get it now, you are one of THESE people: Edited February 23, 2017 by Sargara 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitmentJunkie Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Only if 4x4's run -15 degrees of front camber? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitmentJunkie Posted February 23, 2017 Author Share Posted February 23, 2017 Yeah man But to safely run crazy camber you have to get the toe perfect so I'm trying to find put how much adjustment is in the aftermarket or standard toe ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitmentJunkie Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 I thought there would be more people on here running high end modifications to their suspension, or is this just a coilovers will do kinda place lol I guess I'll just have to wing it, the toe ends look like there constructed with threaded bar so I presume it'll be cool just to alter it and wind it out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich260 Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Each to their own but I literally cannot think of a single reason why you would want to to that to any car. Then I am 29 so well out of touch with the cool kids. I'm not sure I'd class it as a high end suspension modification either as it'll destroy the ride and handling in my opinion. Also I don't think you can safely run that much camber as the contact patch of the tyre to the road will be severely diminished. Then you have probably heard all this before Fair play for trying to do it safely as you can though, good luck with trying to find the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitmentJunkie Posted February 24, 2017 Author Share Posted February 24, 2017 I'm 35 so a bit passed being a cool kid too To run a static stanced car properly, the suspension work will surpass most track cars. I say high end because I'd of thought most people serious about track driving would have properly set up suspension and this should know about toe rod ends adjustability.... whereas like I said, this particular part is new to me as my previous jap suspension ran dual wishbone All parts are aftermarket and have to be modified, all bushes uprated etc I've had 34kg custom coilovers made in the US which are being shipped over, the contact patch won't be an issue as I will still have more tyre on the road than most standard cars But with still having 4 wheels on the road, camber doesn't make these types of cars dangerous it's the toe because if not set properly the wheels fight each other for direction. And that's when it becomes unstable and dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth29 Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 I seem to remember someone on here or youtube cutting and lengthening the track control arm and experiencing a failure - luckily at low speed. So take care! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitmentJunkie Posted February 25, 2017 Author Share Posted February 25, 2017 Oh sweet, I'll have a look and see what I can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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