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Porsche Cayman 987 3.4


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I have one, got it straight after my 350. I have a PASM one on 19's. I really like PASM and wouldn't get one without it personally, but that's just me. I also really like the Sport Chrono pack , mainly for the throttle sharpness it brings. Other than that it's not about the figures, it's about the way all the facets of driving come together really well in the one car.

 

IMS is a very very small risk not worth worrying about I'd say, the bore scoring is at 5-10% but there are things you can do to help minimise risk - get a low temperature thermostat, run the Millers oil that Hartech recommend, don' thrash it from cold or standstill etc.

 

It also doesn't sound as good as the 350 did but that can be fixed with a Carnewal exhaust.

 

I'm really happy with mine.

 

Definitely get an inspection, you'll save the inspection cost in your negotiations I would think.

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I am curious, i have zero intention ever of buying a Cayman, but the whole ims/bore scoring issue is obviously something most are aware of when buying and a potential mine field, so, surely owners wanting to prove their cars are free from issue, would it not be good practice for them to have had the inspection done for potential buyers rather than a buyer punting out the money on a chance (however low) and possible having to fork out another inspection fee on further cars?

 

After coming from possibly the worst reputation for any car with regards to reliability, Rx7's (so i am not just picking on Porsches), any seller would as a matter of course try to make every effort to offer their car with the relevant checks carried out to give their car the best chance of selling without further costs to a buyer.

 

Note: It does tickle me that possibly 1 in 10 cars is brushed off as not a big deal. If 1 in 10 of my jobs went wrong, i probably would be out of business. ;)

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He he....

 

Some people are making a good living out of "Porsche inspections".......

 

All cars have potential problems,the big risk with the Cayman,911 or Boxster is that if the engine does pop the repair bill is massive.. Usually way over half the cars cost..

Some people says its worth the cost and the risk..... Im not one of them people,and i have owned 3 x 911's,and not slept well on any night in my ownership of them..

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He he....

 

Some people are making a good living out of "Porsche inspections".......

 

All cars have potential problems,the big risk with the Cayman,911 or Boxster is that if the engine does pop the repair bill is massive.. Usually way over half the cars cost..

Some people says its worth the cost and the risk..... Im not one of them people,and i have owned 3 x 911's,and not slept well on any night in my ownership of them..

 

Also known as Porsche anxiety. I know that feeling... its not nice!

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I love the cayman, but I too was worried about the idea of an engine rebuild do to bore scoring.. There's always the 2.7, or have a look into things like the 'ims guardian' which supposedly detects abnormal noise form certain engine components, allowing you to address an issue before complete engine failure.

 

Also have a look around for a porsche Specialist. When I was considering a 911 or cayman s I went to see a local Specialist and the rebuild cost was less than 8k.

 

 

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You can always take out an extended warranty. Ok most warranty companies will send you to Halfords for the work as it saves you having to front the cash first, just pick one that will cover the failure.

 

I looked at getting a warranty from the AA, and believe it or not they have a list of porsche cars/engines that they will not warranty damage caused by 'bore scoring'

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I am curious, i have zero intention ever of buying a Cayman, but the whole ims/bore scoring issue is obviously something most are aware of when buying and a potential mine field, so, surely owners wanting to prove their cars are free from issue, would it not be good practice for them to have had the inspection done for potential buyers rather than a buyer punting out the money on a chance (however low) and possible having to fork out another inspection fee on further cars?

 

After coming from possibly the worst reputation for any car with regards to reliability, Rx7's (so i am not just picking on Porsches), any seller would as a matter of course try to make every effort to offer their car with the relevant checks carried out to give their car the best chance of selling without further costs to a buyer.

 

Note: It does tickle me that possibly 1 in 10 cars is brushed off as not a big deal. If 1 in 10 of my jobs went wrong, i probably would be out of business. ;)

 

I think that's a great idea. If I was an owner I would be tempted to get the inspection done just before putting it up for sale, and adding a significant premium to the price of the car if it came back clean. I'm sure plenty of buyers would be tempted to pay the premium due to the amount of hassle saved.

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I paid for a full OPC inspection (111pt check) of my 911 before I sold it. Also included a service too, but then I also priced both of these into the asking price so I didn't lose out ;)

 

Thing is, 95% of buyers don't know or don't care: They just want a cheap Porsche. There's no point spending money out on the car if you just want to get shot of it, and then what happens if you do find out there's an issue? You either have to disclose it in the ad and reduce the price, or hope that someone comes along and doesn't ask the right questions or want their own inspection.

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I paid for a full OPC inspection (111pt check) of my 911 before I sold it. Also included a service too, but then I also priced both of these into the asking price so I didn't lose out ;)

 

Thing is, 95% of buyers don't know or don't care: They just want a cheap Porsche.

 

Those buyers are absolutely crazy, but it's a good point.

 

On a related note, any time I buy a car, I will have it fully researched, know all the common problems etc. Spoke to someone a few weeks ago who just happened to be walking past a car dealer (6 months after buying a car), saw a car that "looked pretty and [they] had never seen before", and just bought it there and then. A car dealer's dream :lol: :lol: .

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Thing is, 95% of buyers don't know or don't care

 

or hope that someone comes along and doesn't ask the right questions or want their own inspection.

 

Them is good odds then ;)

 

I would have thought though appealing to the "5%" who do want an inspection, it would be within the sellers bests interests as you did :)

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So the cons to buying a cayman 3.4:

 

1. Small chance of engine problems

 

 

And the pros:

 

1. A great drivers car

2. Good power and power delivery

3. It's a porsche

4. It's about 10k cheaper than a similar engined 911

5. It's not a boxter (no offense meant to anyone who has a boxter)

6. It's a porsche!!

7. Cheaper to maintain than you would expect (from what I researched)

 

 

I can't see any real reason not to go for it. If you are really concerned then wait it out for a 3.4 that has been rebuilt in the past as they fix the issues when rebuilding.

 

 

Bore scoring isn't an instant end to the engine. Usually there are telltale signs like oil burning and small amounts of smoke that worsen over time. You can have the bores inspected too. And there will be a difference in rebuild price if you were unlucky enough to develop the issue. It would be cheaper to rebuild a running engine with the start of the issue rather than one that has warped the bores, drank the oil and ended with piston seizure.

 

 

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