Strudul Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Aftermarket / custom wheels have their benefits (different styles, wheel / tyre widths, less points of failure), but yes, if the only reason you got them was to fill your arches, spacers are a cheaper and just as effective solution which put just as much strain on the rest of the car. Edited February 16, 2017 by Strudul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Isn't a high offset basically the same as having spacers? Same strain on everything else... Yes! however spacers just add one more component and extra strain to the equation, better to have the correct high offset wheels. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt3579 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 Oh so many haters..... As for spacers i think its a grey area, I know a guy running Hubcentric 80s on an s15, been in the business for a long time and basically just said shuold be fine and all depends what you want to use it for, i guess if your drifting it hard youll probably wear certain things out quicker but safe or not safe just overdramatic, seems if you keep an eye on them and generally look after your car should be fine. Im going to need big spacers and its not always about not wanting to fork out cash on decent wheels, my wheels arnt the right offset but i love the wheels and so will prob need 50s, each to their own. As for the Veilside being ugly, some would argue that a stock 350z is ugly, im one of them, i love the car, but not stock, one mans rubbish is another mans gold... i personally think this guys done a decent build and if mine looks as tight as that ill be happy im with you on the v3 kit i wouldnt say a standard 350 is ugly but its not a looker either to round on the front arse is nice tho but hell yeah v3 buddy ftw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlonl Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Come on mate, don't be like that, nobody's criticising, just making sure the right info is on the forum for other readers. Obviously its preferable to use a low offset wheel than a spacer, a spacer introduces no less than SIX additional points of failure to your hub that a low offset wheel would not, plus the look is not the same (the reason you and most others do this, including me, I have some spacers on my car, not huge, which is what we're talking about here, but still, I also choose to compromise ever so slightly the handling of my car to achieve a certain look, same reason you went for a low offset wheel and most importantly, same physical effect). It's all good bro. P.S. The truth is that a spacer is better for performance though, for one reason and one alone...going to bigger rims adds mass which is not only rotating but also unsprung, adding spacers adds negligible rotating mass, as it is focused at the center of the hub and considerably less unsprung weight. I wasnt being like anything Bro, but you cant say all your doing is putting the correct info for other readers because its all conflicting, in the internet conflicts itself, there is truth in what everyone is saying, all im saying is its a grey area, one person might have lots of issues with spacers, another might have absolutely none, so many variables to consider, is 80mm safe, some say no, id say yes if december spacers are used and monitoered and looked after. as for criticising, there was criticising of the kit, which is fine, its all personal opinion, but there is a lot of hate, just accept people like stuff others may not, would be boring if we were all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valy Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 just accept people like stuff others may not, would be boring if we were all the same haha I said this sooo many times 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Unless something is just plain ugly. I'd rather be boring than ugly. Some say I'm both mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strudul Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) I wasnt being like anything Bro, but you cant say all your doing is putting the correct info for other readers because its all conflicting, in the internet conflicts itself, there is truth in what everyone is saying, all im saying is its a grey area, one person might have lots of issues with spacers, another might have absolutely none, so many variables to consider, is 80mm safe, some say no, id say yes if december spacers are used and monitoered and looked after. as for criticising, there was criticising of the kit, which is fine, its all personal opinion, but there is a lot of hate, just accept people like stuff others may not, would be boring if we were all the same Spacers and different offsets causing additional strain and wear is a fact (which is what was clarified). What's debatable (but wasn't the point of discussion here) is the extent of this. The larger the difference, the more wear / strain there is and the less safe it is, but as you say, there are too many variables to give a definitive answer to that question. You could have 100mm spacers and never have any issues, but it doesn't mean the damage isn't being done. Edited February 16, 2017 by Strudul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt3579 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 hold on hold on guys so you mean to tell me no one wants to pay the 15k asking price ...? im shocked :lol: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aashenfox Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) Come on mate, don't be like that, nobody's criticising, just making sure the right info is on the forum for other readers. Obviously its preferable to use a low offset wheel than a spacer, a spacer introduces no less than SIX additional points of failure to your hub that a low offset wheel would not, plus the look is not the same (the reason you and most others do this, including me, I have some spacers on my car, not huge, which is what we're talking about here, but still, I also choose to compromise ever so slightly the handling of my car to achieve a certain look, same reason you went for a low offset wheel and most importantly, same physical effect). It's all good bro. P.S. The truth is that a spacer is better for performance though, for one reason and one alone...going to bigger rims adds mass which is not only rotating but also unsprung, adding spacers adds negligible rotating mass, as it is focused at the center of the hub and considerably less unsprung weight. I wasnt being like anything Bro, but you cant say all your doing is putting the correct info for other readers because its all conflicting, in the internet conflicts itself, there is truth in what everyone is saying, all im saying is its a grey area, one person might have lots of issues with spacers, another might have absolutely none, so many variables to consider, is 80mm safe, some say no, id say yes if december spacers are used and monitoered and looked after. as for criticising, there was criticising of the kit, which is fine, its all personal opinion, but there is a lot of hate, just accept people like stuff others may not, would be boring if we were all the same Not sure why you thought I was talking to you there...but anyway... I see what you mean, but it's not conflicting from my point of view, nor a grey area. There's a simple right or wrong, optimal and sub-optimal, and it's all down to physics and mathematics. More weight on the hub is bad, more points of failure on the hub is bad, spacers and wide wheels are bad. There, that's the correct info on the forum. Now all we need to do is temper it with 'do whatever you want as long as you accept the consequences', another universal truth. Edited February 16, 2017 by Aashenfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Half the price, metal arches and wheels that fit .......... just saying http://www.tradelinkcars.co.uk/used-car-nissan-350-z-v6-import-10275 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlonl Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Half the price, metal arches and wheels that fit .......... just saying http://www.tradelink...v6-import-10275 Twice the mileage and Cat C, still seems overpriced if basing it on the VS3 being overpriced :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Cat D, and TBH when the entire body has been replaced who cares? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlonl Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Cat D, and TBH when the entire body has been replaced who cares? Car previously recorded Cat C but was rebuilt better than when new by trusted "Streetoptions" with a steel wide-arch conversion. all depends on buyer and if they are willing to buy a Cat C, i wouldnt but thats me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt3579 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 depends on the car if i was buying a skyline a cat c-d wouldnt bother me too much so long as fully restored but a 350z when there are readiely avaiable with lots of choice ide maybe look else where but again depends on the buyer price they want to spend if it fits there style ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conlonl Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 depends on the car if i was buying a skyline a cat c-d wouldnt bother me too much so long as fully restored but a 350z when there are readiely avaiable with lots of choice ide maybe look else where but again depends on the buyer price they want to spend if it fits there style ect hard to compare mate, you wouldnt buy a CAT D skyline with a couple of mods and bodykit for more than the price of a non CAT D Stock skyline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 a 350z when there are readiely avaiable with lots of choice This is what Im getting at though, there arent many widearch ones so if thats what youre after, who cares if its Cat D. BTW the white one was a Cat D, I should know as it was me that put it into the hedge 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt3579 Posted February 16, 2017 Author Share Posted February 16, 2017 depends on the car if i was buying a skyline a cat c-d wouldnt bother me too much so long as fully restored but a 350z when there are readiely avaiable with lots of choice ide maybe look else where but again depends on the buyer price they want to spend if it fits there style ect hard to compare mate, you wouldnt buy a CAT D skyline with a couple of mods and bodykit for more than the price of a non CAT D Stock skyline no course not but its whats available at the i use the skyline as i know theres only a handful for sale at any one time, i know this as im always looking for a decent 34 gtt so if one came up low miles ect but was cat d and the other choices were what i keep seeing 80-100k need some work doing for for same price i know what ide go for. as for widebody 350s tho theres not many but no but making is easy and cheap enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-G- Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 (edited) He'd have gotten that extra £10k 10 years ago. Back when need for speed Carbon was first a thing. (Strudl made me do it) Edited February 16, 2017 by -G- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strudul Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 He'd have gotten that extra £10k 10 years ago. Back when need for speed underground was first a thing. Well now I feel old... 10 years ago was Carbon and ProStreet... NFS:U was over 14 years ago, U2 was >13 years and MW was >12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-G- Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 10 & 10 sounded better in my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-G- Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On an unrelated note, I've been replaying Sega GT2002 - I remembered it as much better than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strudul Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Carbon was hardly lacking in rice... And it had a 350Z too Just quickly go back and edit your post to say Carbon instead of Underground Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strudul Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 On an unrelated note, I've been replaying Sega GT2002 - I remembered it as much better than it is. All games are like that unfortunately, I've tried to replay many games from my childhood and I get bored in 5 mins... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veilside z Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 Yours was mint Valy. This one has been sold a few times over the years but never as high as this... hasn't it Buster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veilside z Posted February 16, 2017 Share Posted February 16, 2017 A 76mm rear spacer on a 10j wheel with an offset of 25 will still not bring the stance of a flush arch even if running a 285 tyre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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