zebedee! Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 This might be worth looking at: http://www.aetturbosonline.com/images/n ... ochure.pdf They are also offering half price dyno time until 31st March Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySpak Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 I understand the OEM ecu is safe even with all the extra breathing, but why spend £200-£300 on an intake manifold, ~£700 on an exhaust, ~£300 on sports cats and ~£200 on an intake to not get the full benefit of them by uprating ecu... Since joining this site and learning that any mods are completely negated by the ecu I have been completely put off the idea of modding my Zed. I too am very surprised that people are spending vast sums of money on zorsts, plenums, induction kits, manifolds, etc with no performance gain. Seems totally pointless to me. £2,000 to make it sound better???? If I did decide to mod my car it would be with a ecu remap firmly in mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmJak Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 if extra performance is the goal rather than just noise, there are mods which the ecu doesn't cancel out such as plenum spacer, final drive, flywheel etc. apart from plenum spacer, they won't necessarily give more power but will give more speed. it does annoy me tho that cars like the skyline just needs a few mods and it gets over 400bhp, and without going f/i you're lucky to get over 300bhp in a z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 TBH £1200 for a mapped UTEC is not that bad a price. But my only concern is would you be able to feel enough difference to justify spending it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySpak Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 it does annoy me tho that cars like the skyline just needs a few mods and it gets over 400bhp, and without going f/i you're lucky to get over 300bhp in a z I think the skyline is a slightly different kettle of fish mind. The Skyline's stock engine is actually a detuned version of what Nissan wanted it to be due to the "gentleman's agreement" the Japanese car manufacturers have together with the Japanese government. The fact you only need to spend £400 on an off-the-shelf chip to take a V-Spec R33 or R34 from 276bhp to 390bhp+ tells you that. The car is made for that power without further modification. With the Zed, Nissan intended it to be as it is, hence the difficulty in making it very much more powerful. Obviously everything I just typed is IMHO and the facts are IIRC - just in case I'm talking bollox again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 This might be worth looking at:http://www.aetturbosonline.com/images/n ... ochure.pdf They are also offering half price dyno time until 31st March Simon Just speaking to a local tuner who has built a PE TT using the haltech stand alone system. He will be passing on the forum details to the owner who will hopefully join up and tell all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15MNO-Daron Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Nice..cant wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 He gave me some info in the MSN convo. He is trying to arrange a look for me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japerformance-ltd Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Hello Everyone, We just wanted to introduce ourselves and say hi. With regards to the ECU question you do not have to go piggy back as Haltech have now developed the standalone giving excellent results and control which far exceed a piggy back. Regards Japerformance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 you decided to come along! You should post up an intro in the introductions section. I can't wait to see the beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmJak Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Hello Everyone, We just wanted to introduce ourselves and say hi. With regards to the ECU question you do not have to go piggy back as Haltech have now developed the standalone giving excellent results and control which far exceed a piggy back. Regards Japerformance sorry for pecking your head as soon as you turn up but i'm quite intrigued by the ECU. . .i haven't been able to find too much info about the effects of upgrading it. will the Haltech give any noticeable effects with just some minor mods like exhaust / intake / plenum etc? if so how much improvement and how much is it likely to cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15MNO-Daron Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Hello Everyone, We just wanted to introduce ourselves and say hi. With regards to the ECU question you do not have to go piggy back as Haltech have now developed the standalone giving excellent results and control which far exceed a piggy back. Regards Japerformance Nice to have u aboard.. v excited about this stand alone ECU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 I'm sure the feedback will be forthcoming; the Haltech is a premier league product but it isn't cheap (over $2000) and you will still need to get it tuned but presumably the company on this thread can offer that or we have the same issue i.e. excellent product but limited experience in the UK? For high and ultra-high HP applications, the Haltech is IMO far in advance of the UTEC but whether for N/A it offers good price/performance tradeoff must again be open to question. I also await more info with interest .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japerformance-ltd Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Hello Everyone, thank you for such a welcome to the board i dont normally have time to go on forums but being sunday today and not actually working on a car but my bathroom instead i found excuses to have a break from it lol. Right the Haltech ecu is at the moment the best option for a 350z, it is a stand alone system but is intergrated with the stock ecu, it is plug and play which means no wiring unless your fitting a 3 bar map sensor in the engine bay which is optional. We are Haltech Dealers in Scotland and we had 1 of 10 test ecu's through the development stage of Haltech making this ecu. basically it controls alot of stuff and leave a few things to the stock ecu which we wouldnt really need to play with the main interests are that you can control ignition timing and fueling and one of the biggest advantages is that we can also control the cam over lap etc making for good torque all round. We have only supplied one to a customer which as i said above was 1 of 10 development units and now the ecu's have been released in the states we will be able to order them now as before they simply were not available to the public. I will next week ask my customer to come in and well take some photos of the car and engine bay for you lot to see but the impressive thing is that the car is so smooth you woudlnt even know it was all added. It makes excellent power at 6psi boost. We wouldnt supply a product like this unless we tried and tested it ourselves so your not in the situation of just buying it with no support. it is hard for me to gauge on a NA car the advantages of having this control ie estimating power but no matter what car or engine rather having full control to live map with a stand alone system will always yield the best results. So someone come in order one and lets find out. This specific 350z runs a power enterprise stage 3 turbo kit, japspeed decats, hks full stainless exhaust ( think 70 or 60mm forget ) with titanium tips and ofcourse the haltech ecu and makes what i feel is impressive 403 ft\lbs of torque and 406 bhp at the flywheel ( ill have to dig up whp which is what really counts. It has 20" wheels fitted to it so helps with traction btu obviously reduces wheel horsepower slightly. the car originally made just under 300 bhp in stock form and when decatted made 312 top end but lost alot of low end torque the reason being the stock cam overlap settings wouldnt have been suited for the flow but now with the haltech we can play with all that and optimize every load area ; I look forward to seeing some of you fit the Haltech ecu as it is really good and value for money considering that it is the only standalone option for it at the moment and haltech not playing the monopoly card on everyone , i know they have spent alot of money and done heaps of research into this project and it really is value for money. There are updates all the time with more and more features being added all the time. feel free to pop in or call us and i apologise in advance if i dont reply on the forum regularlyas i am really busy and i am nto being ignorant so all that have urgent requests please feel free to call or pass by. Might be going to crail soon with my car and that 350z if he does decide to tag along ill let you all know so you can see the car on the strip Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15MNO-Daron Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Whats the cost of this new chip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
japerformance-ltd Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 It is not a chip mate it is a complete ecu , they are not cheap but then again they are not rip off either they retail for 1499+vat then there is ofcourse mapping charges on top a full custom remap on the dyno is 500+vat so your basically looking at 1999+vat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 it is a stand alone system but is intergrated with the stock ecu, It is not a chip mate it is a complete ecu So which is it? Either you completely remove the stock ECU (a la PowerFC et al) or you piggyback with the existing (e-Manage). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 It is not a chip mate it is a complete ecu , they are not cheap but then again they are not rip off either they retail for 1499+vat then there is ofcourse mapping charges on top a full custom remap on the dyno is 500+vat so your basically looking at 1999+vat. AET are selling the Haltech for £988+vat http://www.aetturbosonline.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N15MNO-Daron Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 AET are selling the Haltech for £988+vat http://www.aetturbosonline.com/ thats a huge price diff (more than 25% cheaper?!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSheener Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 any updates in the ecu situation? is our only option to buy stand alone items, or is there a race on to "crack" the oem ecu? (is it even possible?) that would be good, as im sure it would make tuning cheaper and get one up on the ecu NAZI's! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3FIDDYZ Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 the car originally made just under 300 bhp in stock form and when decatted made 312 top end What year was this car? Am guessing that it was one of the new ones cause if it was a 04 or 05 then it was a blinding car in N/A... If it was an 04 i would have left it as it was and got one of the ones that is running at 225-250bhp and turboed that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasmin350zDK Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have a 2003 fairlady Z i got the ECU remap by envy it cost 700 guess it pays to go JDM!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bronzee Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have a 2003 fairlady Z i got the ECU remap by envy it cost 700 guess it pays to go JDM!!!!! Welcome to the forum. Pop into the Welcome subforum and say hi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M13KYF Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 I have a 2003 fairlady Z i got the ECU remap by envy it cost 700 guess it pays to go JDM!!!!! Welcome to the forum. Pop into the Welcome subforum and say hi. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lotuscc Posted October 31, 2008 Share Posted October 31, 2008 Thor Racing tuned Utec will give you around 10% increase. They are experienced at tuning using this unit, I'm sure they will do you a deal on the hardware and tuning. XS turbo provide a full software back up for their Utec system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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