Spatt Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Hi guys can any one recommend a good place to get my engine rebuilt? I'm still saving but i want to start looking at places now Ta Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Most tuners can rebuild an engine, but the issue is where to get the machining done and who has experience. I would name Abbey, AME at silverstone as the closest to yourself that know the engine inside out and have good relationships with machine shops other people would be severn valley motorsport. But if you have the time and patience find a good machine shop and do the rebuild yourself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nissanman312 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Hi guys can any one recommend a good place to get my engine rebuilt? I'm still saving but i want to start looking at places now Ta Matt What's happend matt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 thanks for the heads up, I've already spoken with Abbey and they're too expensive for my budget (yes sadly i do have a budget for the build) ive had budget prices ranging from 2.5K - 10K I can't do the build myself as i would need to hire a workshop space / ramp and only have time to work on it at evenings and weekends I know i could have the machine work done myself but dont know the tolorances and spec I'm not rushing into it but ive managed to sell some bits and just want to get some fresh numbers in my head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 Hi guys can any one recommend a good place to get my engine rebuilt? I'm still saving but i want to start looking at places now Ta Matt What's happend matt? Hi Nick, The motor started smoking about 4 to 5 months ago and although it still drives its that bad now that i'm burning more oil than V power! Diagnosis at the garage was "Rebuild" Its been SORN for the last two and a half months while i save up had to part with a load of stuff to get to this point and i dont want to give up until its back on the road (hopefully soon) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Buy a fully built bottom end from torqen for £4k. Failing that TDI north in Warrington can rebuild an engine and have a machine shop that does work for them. Edited October 26, 2016 by TT350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Buy a fully built bottom end from torqen for £4k. Failing that TDI north in Warrington can rebuild an engine and have a machine shop that does work for them. What comes in the bottom end? crank etc on mine should be fine so not looking to replace that TDI wont carry out the work they recommended Abbey Edited October 26, 2016 by Spatt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I've been looking at a rebuild for a while. I was quoted just shy of £4k for a fully refurbished engine, with forged pistons an £800 on top of that. This includes: - The engine will be stripped and all parts cleaned in a chemical bath - All piston rings are replaced - Crank is re-polished and re-ground if needed and refitted with new bearing shells (both big end and main) - The head is pressure tested and skimmed, valves cleaned and re-seated, new seals fitted - All head and engine gaskets are replaced - New timing belt fitted (please note that if your vehicle has more than one timing chain/belt there will be an additional cost for this part) - New water pump - Injectors cleaned and tested - Turbo removed and cleaned (If applicable) - Radiator checked and flushed - Coolant replaced - Oil and filter replaced The above comes with a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty. I'm seriously considering going with this next year, although as I'm just going through oil at the moment it isn't pressing. Do let me know how it goes either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evilscorp Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I would upgrade to an rev-up oil pump while you are in there as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Buy a fully built bottom end from torqen for £4k. Failing that TDI north in Warrington can rebuild an engine and have a machine shop that does work for them. What comes in the bottom end? crank etc on mine should be fine so not looking to replace that TDI wont carry out the work they recommended Abbey A wealth of goodies. Wiseco pistons Eagle rods ARP Rod bolts ARP main studs Ceramic/moly piston coating Block inspected and cleaned Block redecked Block bored and honed Block water passage cut for HR head gasket Rotating assembly balanced Crank magnafluxed and journals re polished New moly coated race spec main bearings New moly coated rod bearings Block prepped and assembled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 Buy a fully built bottom end from torqen for £4k. Failing that TDI north in Warrington can rebuild an engine and have a machine shop that does work for them. What comes in the bottom end? crank etc on mine should be fine so not looking to replace that TDI wont carry out the work they recommended Abbey A wealth of goodies. Wiseco pistons Eagle rods ARP Rod bolts ARP main studs Ceramic/moly piston coating Block inspected and cleaned Block redecked Block bored and honed Block water passage cut for HR head gasket Rotating assembly balanced Crank magnafluxed and journals re polished New moly coated race spec main bearings New moly coated rod bearings Block prepped and assembled. What would be the advantages of all this tho? I am on a budget and i just dont think its practical. Sure it would be nice to have all that but i'm not going FI and just happy to have a good honest 280 hp back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 I've been looking at a rebuild for a while. I was quoted just shy of £4k for a fully refurbished engine, with forged pistons an £800 on top of that. This includes: - The engine will be stripped and all parts cleaned in a chemical bath - All piston rings are replaced - Crank is re-polished and re-ground if needed and refitted with new bearing shells (both big end and main) - The head is pressure tested and skimmed, valves cleaned and re-seated, new seals fitted - All head and engine gaskets are replaced - New timing belt fitted (please note that if your vehicle has more than one timing chain/belt there will be an additional cost for this part) - New water pump - Injectors cleaned and tested - Turbo removed and cleaned (If applicable) - Radiator checked and flushed - Coolant replaced - Oil and filter replaced The above comes with a 12 month 12,000 mile warranty. I'm seriously considering going with this next year, although as I'm just going through oil at the moment it isn't pressing. Do let me know how it goes either way. I know the forged pistons are around that sort of money but i dont see the point unless your doing everything else forged (and unless your going for FI)... 4K seems reasonable for what they've quoted though i have had better quotes. including rebore and new piston heads... i guess it will change from garage to garage Who was that with?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 I would upgrade to an rev-up oil pump while you are in there as well. Is there a problem with the standard oil pump? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I've just had a new quote in (I was curious so put the feelers out). Latest is: SUPPLY AND FIT + RECOVERY ( Engine Fitters Reconditioned Engine - Warranty) LOW Miles ENGINE £ 2600.00 1 £ 2600.00 Units are sourced from low mileage vehicles for rebuilding Engine is dismantled to its individual components for inspection of damage Engine is fully de-greased and cleaned Cylinder head is pressure tested for cracks and then Skimmed to renew the surface of Cylinder head, If Cylinder head is cracked we replace Cylinder head with another tested unit. All valve seats are machined and fitted with new valve stem oil seals Camshafts are checked for alignment and polished Cylinder head is re-fitted with new head Bolts & new head Gasket Correct torque settings are applied during tightening of new head bolts Engine Block is crack tested and new cylinder liners fitted Engine Block Oil Channels are cleaned to ensure there is no blockage within oil gallery Crankshaft alignment is checked and crack tested and then ground to specification New OEM Bearings Fitted New OEM Oil Pump fitted on ALL rebuilds New Piston rings are fitted to ALL rebuilds Pistons are checked and replaced if required So these guys don't do the water pump, injectors, timing belt or radiator work - it's more just the engine itself. For an uplift they'd do the other elements though and would bring the cost under £4k. Would have to supply stronger internal parts if they are wanted and they'll fit without additional labour cost. Thing is, if I do get the rebuild done, it'd be to prepare for FI next year (or the following), so worth it in that instance. If you're just looking for a new engine, this might be a better way to go about it. Got an 07 Rev-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-350Z-ENGINE-3-5-V6-VQ35DE-ENGINE-2001-2007-SUPPLY-FIT-/112040432328?nav=SEARCH NISSAN 350Z 3.5 V6 PETROL ENGINE 2001-2007 ENGINE CODE # VQ35DE SPECIAL OFFER ON COMPLETE SUPPLY & FITTING OF ENGINE PRICE £ 1995 [FULLY FITTED] WE ALSO OFFER REBUILDING AND FITTING OF YOUR EXISTING ENGINE IF U WANT TO KEEP THE SAME ENGINE NUMBER. FAST & RELIABLE SERVICE. ALL O.E PARTS USED. FREE SERVICE WHILE INSTALLATION OF ENGINE WE OFFER FREE LOCAL RECOVERY CALL US TO GET RECOVERY QUOTE WE COLLECT VEHICLE FROM NATIONWIDE WARRANTY OFFERED 6 MONTHS WARRANTY ON ENGINE & 6 MONTHS ON LABOR PAYMENT METHOD CREDIT CARD / DEBIT CARD / BANK TRANSFER / CASH ON COLLECTION OR FURTHER DETAILS CONTACT US AT Auto Engines UK Ltd TEL: 01708555566 MOBILE: 07733990300 SKYPE: rzautoengines0 Edited October 26, 2016 by TT350 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I've just had a new quote in (I was curious so put the feelers out). Latest is: SUPPLY AND FIT + RECOVERY ( Engine Fitters Reconditioned Engine - Warranty) LOW Miles ENGINE £ 2600.00 1 £ 2600.00 Units are sourced from low mileage vehicles for rebuilding Engine is dismantled to its individual components for inspection of damage Engine is fully de-greased and cleaned Cylinder head is pressure tested for cracks and then Skimmed to renew the surface of Cylinder head, If Cylinder head is cracked we replace Cylinder head with another tested unit. All valve seats are machined and fitted with new valve stem oil seals Camshafts are checked for alignment and polished Cylinder head is re-fitted with new head Bolts & new head Gasket Correct torque settings are applied during tightening of new head bolts Engine Block is crack tested and new cylinder liners fitted Engine Block Oil Channels are cleaned to ensure there is no blockage within oil gallery Crankshaft alignment is checked and crack tested and then ground to specification New OEM Bearings Fitted New OEM Oil Pump fitted on ALL rebuilds New Piston rings are fitted to ALL rebuilds Pistons are checked and replaced if required So these guys don't do the water pump, injectors, timing belt or radiator work - it's more just the engine itself. For an uplift they'd do the other elements though and would bring the cost under £4k. Would have to supply stronger internal parts if they are wanted and they'll fit without additional labour cost. Thing is, if I do get the rebuild done, it'd be to prepare for FI next year (or the following), so worth it in that instance. If you're just looking for a new engine, this might be a better way to go about it. Got an 07 Rev-up. Be very very careful of companies that offer services like this , some in fact many just clean up a stock engine from a breaker and sell it on, the industry is rife with it unfortunately. That one posted "Auto Engines UK Ltd" is one of them . ANY company that will only accept cash should be avoided as you have zero protection if anything goes wrong. If you really want a rebuild the best option is to use a specialist , its not cheap but many people find out its good value AFTER trying alternative means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverB Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is the reason I haven't got mine done yet (besides the cost). I have been hoping to get the long block done by professionals, however the only ones I would trust (that provide a fixed cost on their website without +/-) are Torqen. Problem there is £7,369. I could sell the car, use the extra cash to buy an FI HR or a 370. But then I wouldn't have the warm fuzzy feeling that everything is right with the engine, which is the whole point of doing this. Guess I just have to save up for a while longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is the reason I haven't got mine done yet (besides the cost). I have been hoping to get the long block done by professionals, however the only ones I would trust (that provide a fixed cost on their website without +/-) are Torqen. Problem there is £7,369. I could sell the car, use the extra cash to buy an FI HR or a 370. But then I wouldn't have the warm fuzzy feeling that everything is right with the engine, which is the whole point of doing this. Guess I just have to save up for a while longer You will never have the "fuzzy feeling" that all is right with the engine , forged engines are not always easy to live with and few come with a useful guarantee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 This is the reason I haven't got mine done yet (besides the cost). I have been hoping to get the long block done by professionals, however the only ones I would trust (that provide a fixed cost on their website without +/-) are Torqen. Problem there is £7,369. I could sell the car, use the extra cash to buy an FI HR or a 370. But then I wouldn't have the warm fuzzy feeling that everything is right with the engine, which is the whole point of doing this. Guess I just have to save up for a while longer forged engines are not always easy to live with Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fen Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I I'm going though a similar scenario at the mo. Spoke to a bloke called Jeff at nissan 4x4 centre in Tyne an wear. They have a 350z in gulf colours. Advertise on eBay aiming at repairs for navara and Elgrand but know the VQ35DE apparently. He told me it's about 2k for a rebuild including - engine will be stripped and all parts cleaned - All piston rings are replaced - Crank is re-polished and re-ground if needed and refitted with new bearing shells - The head is pressure tested and skimmed, valves cleaned and re-seated, new seals fitted - All head and engine gaskets are replaced with oem equipment - Injectors cleaned and tested - Radiator checked and flushed - Coolant replaced - Oil and filter replaced Possibly add price of new pistons and rings(of your choice) if cylinders need reboring. He said he can collect my car but would prefer if if I took the car and checked out thier workshop and meet the guys who would be doing the work. Which sounded reassuring as the known dodgy rebuilds don't want you seeing anything. He said a drive in drive out in 2 weeks. What do you guys make of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 You tried Jez @ Horsham? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 I've just had a new quote in (I was curious so put the feelers out). Latest is: SUPPLY AND FIT + RECOVERY ( Engine Fitters Reconditioned Engine - Warranty) LOW Miles ENGINE £ 2600.00 1 £ 2600.00 Units are sourced from low mileage vehicles for rebuilding Engine is dismantled to its individual components for inspection of damage Engine is fully de-greased and cleaned Cylinder head is pressure tested for cracks and then Skimmed to renew the surface of Cylinder head, If Cylinder head is cracked we replace Cylinder head with another tested unit. All valve seats are machined and fitted with new valve stem oil seals Camshafts are checked for alignment and polished Cylinder head is re-fitted with new head Bolts & new head Gasket Correct torque settings are applied during tightening of new head bolts Engine Block is crack tested and new cylinder liners fitted Engine Block Oil Channels are cleaned to ensure there is no blockage within oil gallery Crankshaft alignment is checked and crack tested and then ground to specification New OEM Bearings Fitted New OEM Oil Pump fitted on ALL rebuilds New Piston rings are fitted to ALL rebuilds Pistons are checked and replaced if required So these guys don't do the water pump, injectors, timing belt or radiator work - it's more just the engine itself. For an uplift they'd do the other elements though and would bring the cost under £4k. Would have to supply stronger internal parts if they are wanted and they'll fit without additional labour cost. Thing is, if I do get the rebuild done, it'd be to prepare for FI next year (or the following), so worth it in that instance. If you're just looking for a new engine, this might be a better way to go about it. Got an 07 Rev-up. Be very very careful of companies that offer services like this , some in fact many just clean up a stock engine from a breaker and sell it on, the industry is rife with it unfortunately. That one posted "Auto Engines UK Ltd" is one of them . ANY company that will only accept cash should be avoided as you have zero protection if anything goes wrong. If you really want a rebuild the best option is to use a specialist , its not cheap but many people find out its good value AFTER trying alternative means I would never deal with cash for something like this, it screams scam and i wont be going near that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 I I'm going though a similar scenario at the mo. Spoke to a bloke called Jeff at nissan 4x4 centre in Tyne an wear. They have a 350z in gulf colours. Advertise on eBay aiming at repairs for navara and Elgrand but know the VQ35DE apparently. He told me it's about 2k for a rebuild including - engine will be stripped and all parts cleaned - All piston rings are replaced - Crank is re-polished and re-ground if needed and refitted with new bearing shells - The head is pressure tested and skimmed, valves cleaned and re-seated, new seals fitted - All head and engine gaskets are replaced with oem equipment - Injectors cleaned and tested - Radiator checked and flushed - Coolant replaced - Oil and filter replaced Possibly add price of new pistons and rings(of your choice) if cylinders need reboring. He said he can collect my car but would prefer if if I took the car and checked out thier workshop and meet the guys who would be doing the work. Which sounded reassuring as the known dodgy rebuilds don't want you seeing anything. He said a drive in drive out in 2 weeks. What do you guys make of that? I Fen, I've also spoken with Jeff and he is offering me the same thing I'm making the 6 hour round trip to go and see him in a couple of weeks, i'll let you know what i think if that helps perhaps we could get a package deal ?? :lol: He seems to know his stuff and i'm holding his company as good maybe at the moment - will see when i meet him if i go ahead Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spatt Posted October 27, 2016 Author Share Posted October 27, 2016 You tried Jez @ Horsham? Hey Stu, Any more info on that? I'm speaking to as many as i can at the moment cheers, Matt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 This is the reason I haven't got mine done yet (besides the cost). I have been hoping to get the long block done by professionals, however the only ones I would trust (that provide a fixed cost on their website without +/-) are Torqen. Problem there is £7,369. I could sell the car, use the extra cash to buy an FI HR or a 370. But then I wouldn't have the warm fuzzy feeling that everything is right with the engine, which is the whole point of doing this. Guess I just have to save up for a while longer forged engines are not always easy to live with Why? Some forged engines sound horrendous when cold, piston slap is very common on forged pistons since they expand more when hot , this can also mean that the pistons rings dont last as long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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