viezu remap vs uprev remap

[davey_83]

I say go for it, do some local checks on the rolling road outfit more so than the mapping software to gauge their feedback.

 

Along with the service and plenum spacer, while thats all going ahead take out the MAF and give that a good clean. By the time the other work has been done, it will be fully dried out ready to re fit. Check and adjust tyre pressures correctly too.

Edited September 14, 2016 by davey_83

[GMballistic]

i was surprised to find out that all the mods i had done to my Zed prior to it being mapped, gave me an extra 4 bhp over what it says it is on paper (276)

 

O.k, i concede that 4 bhp is nothing to get the DJ and beers out for but, it shows it can make a difference and that it's not just placebo.

Just going to put this out there ~ You can only really say that though if you had the car put on the dyno & tested firstly in standard form, ....then proceed to fit the aftermarket parts and re-test the power of the car on the dyno under the same conditions as before (E.g: same ambient temperatures, same day, same tyre pressures etc etc).

 

Also a car manufacturer may say on paper that their car has 276Bhp as new from the factory but the truth could be it's got more power as standard (used to be fairly common with Japanese cars from the 90's) or even less power.

Plus each dyno make will give different readouts as well as the same dyno make giving different readouts for the same car on different days. Again coming down to so many different variables.

 

Oh and just to put this in the mix as well, tests have shown that a car running on new engine oil as appose to 12 months or older engine oil will show an increase in Bhp.

[wilo]

thanks for all the advice guys .the car is booked in friday as i now have all the parts (cheers Adrian) but ill have to go to RS tuning for the remap as there the only place local ish that does uprev.

 

 

[Rock_Steady]

i was surprised to find out that all the mods i had done to my Zed prior to it being mapped, gave me an extra 4 bhp over what it says it is on paper (276)

 

O.k, i concede that 4 bhp is nothing to get the DJ and beers out for but, it shows it can make a difference and that it's not just placebo.

Just going to put this out there ~ You can only really say that though if you had the car put on the dyno & tested firstly in standard form, ....then proceed to fit the aftermarket parts and re-test the power of the car on the dyno under the same conditions as before (E.g: same ambient temperatures, same day, same tyre pressures etc etc).

 

Also a car manufacturer may say on paper that their car has 276Bhp as new from the factory but the truth could be it's got more power as standard (used to be fairly common with Japanese cars from the 90's) or even less power.

Plus each dyno make will give different readouts as well as the same dyno make giving different readouts for the same car on different days. Again coming down to so many different variables.

 

Oh and just to put this in the mix as well, tests have shown that a car running on new engine oil as appose to 12 months or older engine oil will show an increase in Bhp.

Very true. That's why i had it on a dyno prior to any mods. It made 269 @ the fly. But as you say, not even that really proves anything as it wasn't the same dyno. I'm merely suggesting it may not be placebo. Or at least i think to think so. It also had an oil change before the map, so maybe that's where the increase in BHP came from In some respect i hope it did as it will be the cheapest way i have ever gained more ponies. Edited September 19, 2016 by Rock_Steady

[Rock_Steady]

i was surprised to find out that all the mods i had done to my Zed prior to it being mapped, gave me an extra 4 bhp over what it says it is on paper (276)

 

O.k, i concede that 4 bhp is nothing to get the DJ and beers out for but, it shows it can make a difference and that it's not just placebo.

what mods did you have before the remap

Velocity stacker, dry gel air filter, plenum spacer, Hfcs, new exhaust system. That's it.

[GMballistic]

...It also had an oil change before the map, so maybe that's where the increase in BHP came from In some respect i hope it did as it will be the cheapest way i have ever gained more ponies.

Was definitely the oil change.

[Irn Bru]

thanks for all the advice guys .the car is booked in friday as i now have all the parts (cheers Adrian) but ill have to go to RS tuning for the remap as there the only place local ish that does uprev.

 

If you haven't already got one from Adrian, (D1 spec gt throttle controller) then do so, best plug and play mod ever. Really livens the throttle response up..... even after the uprev remap. Best £100ish pounds you'll spend. Whap it onto sport 10 and bingo

[wilo]

thanks for all the advice guys .the car is booked in friday as i now have all the parts (cheers Adrian) but ill have to go to RS tuning for the remap as there the only place local ish that does uprev.

 

If you haven't already got one from Adrian, (D1 spec gt throttle controller) then do so, best plug and play mod ever. Really livens the throttle response up..... even after the uprev remap. Best £100ish pounds you'll spend. Whap it onto sport 10 and bingo

mmmm will have to look into these. ..tbh iv had the plenum spacer fitted and havnt noticed a damn thing either in performance or sound so hope a remap helps

[Irn Bru]

Your not going to feel anything with just a plenum spacer, you'll need a lot more than just that, have a look at my sig below to what I've done to my Zed, all that and all I got (from nissan bhp figure of 276) was 24 more ponies at just shy of 300bhp according to a rolling road dyno up in Aberdeen. Got the original wheel power figures from when Chris @ Dynatune remapped her but can't remember the exact whp reading, I'll go dig it out and come back to you.

 

Even at an additional 25 bhp say, your not really going to feel it much, remapping does make a difference to how the car drives and feels and adding the D1 TC helps too.

[Rock_Steady]

Your not going to feel anything with just a plenum spacer, you'll need a lot more than just that, have a look at my sig below to what I've done to my Zed, all that and all I got (from nissan bhp figure of 276) was 24 more ponies at just shy of 300bhp according to a rolling road dyno up in Aberdeen. Got the original wheel power figures from when Chris @ Dynatune remapped her but can't remember the exact whp reading, I'll go dig it out and come back to you.

 

Even at an additional 25 bhp say, your not really going to feel it much, remapping does make a difference to how the car drives and feels and adding the D1 TC helps too.

Is it worth getting the D1 TC after a re-map?

[coldel]

As far as I know it basically pulls up the sensitivity of the throttle peddle, so you wont see any performance gains, it will literally mean that when you push the peddle a little bit it revs around quicker until you engage the clutch?

[Rock_Steady]

i only ask as Mark at Abbey deleted the TC limits. So instead of a 3:1 ratio to the pedal it's now 1:1

Edited September 20, 2016 by Rock_Steady

[coldel]

I had one on before I had my remap, it revved quicker with the TC set to 10 than after the remap and the TC taken off, so presume the TC can push it beyond 1:1 and to something like 1:3?

[davey_83]

Ive not driven a map'd or D1 TC zed before, so dont flame me but i find the standard throttle response now with the uprated whiteline diff poly bush super quick. In the dry with TC off, i can spin the rears up in 1^st, 2^nd and a chirp in 3^rd anyways so any more ‘response’ is only going to give me less traction at wide open throttle.

 

Plus when actually driving quickly you’re at wide open throttle, so there’s zero benefit with the controller then either......

[Irn Bru]

Your not going to feel anything with just a plenum spacer, you'll need a lot more than just that, have a look at my sig below to what I've done to my Zed, all that and all I got (from nissan bhp figure of 276) was 24 more ponies at just shy of 300bhp according to a rolling road dyno up in Aberdeen. Got the original wheel power figures from when Chris @ Dynatune remapped her but can't remember the exact whp reading, I'll go dig it out and come back to you.

 

Even at an additional 25 bhp say, your not really going to feel it much, remapping does make a difference to how the car drives and feels and adding the D1 TC helps too.

Is it worth getting the D1 TC after a re-map?

In my opinion yes, there's no extra grunt with it but the throttle response is better even after the mapping

[Irn Bru]

Also....just make sure you notify your insurance Co.each time you add a Mod to the car, don't wait till they are all done, do it every time as soon as you do it.

[Ekona]

Or do it in a great big batch just before you do it, saves the admin fee.

[Irn Bru]

Never been charged an admin fee for declaring mods, not even had an increase in premium, I'm with AXA, do you / have you been charged for notifying mods to your insurance Co Dan ?

Edited September 20, 2016 by Irn Bru

[coldel]

I havent either? In some cases have declared things and had no increase at all except it being added to the list.

[Ekona]

Very, very unusual that you guys don't get charged: I assumed it was standard now. Usually £30 or so, which seems reasonable enough to cover the work done.

[coldel]

I have rung up, said I wanted to add aftermarket wheels, they said "ok, that's done" end of call?

[Irn Bru]

I send an email to my broker detailing what's been changed / added / modded and get a simple email back saying ok mods noted on the system, no increase in premium, gotta love my broker . IIRC he's said in the past that as long as I don't boost it with forced induction they are happy to cover all my mods like for like should anything happen and only charges me £326.00 per annum for the privelege.

 

Edit: I do have history with them though, been with them for 15 years and never claimed, and I insure 5 vehicles with them so maybe getting loyalty and multi vehicles treatment. I ring round every year in early december to get quotes and nobody comes close to price or service from them. Performance Direct / Grove and Dean are the guys I use.

Edited September 20, 2016 by Irn Bru