Zedrush Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Dont flame me yes there is a search button but still cant get the hang of it. Two kits Im mainly interested in: Greddy single turbo kit Power Enterprise TT kit If Im only looking at getting the most out of my engine without an engine rebuild, and use as a daily drive, which kit is the best to go for and what are the major disadvantages between TT and single Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinmac Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=525 http://www.350z-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3466 Just cos I can find it doesnt mean I understand it though bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuey Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 surely supercharge is the better option............... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 Supercharger dont have dump valve sound Just sorting through I found out after calling round PE kit is the better kit, questions on wether 380bhp or 370bhp is safer is still in question, but I think I stick to 370 just to be on safe side. Now concerning the ECU which makes me wish I got a JDm version, my ECU will be self learning, have been told to send of to Japan for reflash but even more advise was to get a HKS FCON Power V pro, which is a n all signing and all dancing unit that will stop my current ECU from resorting back to normal mode whilst running the aircon and electrics as normal. Decisions decisions... could go for supercharger but dies out too quick where as PE kit, they are smaller turbos so less lag and you get power at both lower and top end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Go for the PE kit, you dont have to go for big power just a nice solid power curve with loads of torque and concentrate on improving other aspects of the car. i know your sorting the brakes and suspension so maybe look at the drivetrain, further chassis bracing if needed and weight reduction (lose some weight tubby! ). not to mention some driving courses. The cosworth plenum maybe worth a look too if/when their results are given out along with a good exhaust setup can yeald a few extra ponies. Making sure you have a good map can be the difference between a reliable 370 and 380bhp.. So get the best tuner available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 Thats the part Im struggling with is the tuning part, it needs to be a V power pro, Sumo recommended it, rather than get it reflashed, as i do want to keep the Ecu the same without reflashing, but its finding a reliable source in the UK who can tune it, preferably id rather get the kit installled and tuned at the same place The thing that puts me off of supercharger also is that I have heardso many time where every other day the cam belt keeps slipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Thats the part Im struggling with is the tuning part, it needs to be a V power pro, Sumo recommended it, rather than get it reflashed, as i do want to keep the Ecu the same without reflashing, but its finding a reliable source in the UK who can tune it, preferably id rather get the kit installled and tuned at the same place The thing that puts me off of supercharger also is that I have heardso many time where every other day the cam belt keeps slipping Abbey will supply & map a FCON - will cost £3k+ though. I have attatched the quote I got from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 Bloody ell, so a power enterprise kit installed looking at about £5800, then on top a further £3000, thats £8800 just to have a turbo conversion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Abbey will supply & map a FCON - will cost £3k+ though. I have attatched the quote I got from them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
limiter Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Im confused now, guess thats why so many people opt for keeping it oem less hassel.. How about you have all the usual mods, i.e nismo exhaust, high flow cats, plenum spacer, induction kit, and perhaps headers hks, with an Fcon IS surely there would be some gains there, perhaps bringing the engine to a respectable 320-330 bhp??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 Im confused now, guess thats why so many people opt for keeping it oem less hassel.. How about you have all the usual mods, i.e nismo exhaust, high flow cats, plenum spacer, induction kit, and perhaps headers hks, with an Fcon IS surely there would be some gains there, perhaps bringing the engine to a respectable 320-330 bhp??? yep looks like we might have to go that route bro real shame though Thought it was a quick fix for 5800 guess alot more is involved now, especially messing with the ecu and the risks involved in that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ir_fuel Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Bloody ell, so a power enterprise kit installed looking at about £5800, then on top a further £3000, thats £8800 just to have a turbo conversion Upgrading the performance of an N/A engine costs lots of $$$, or solution 2, do it for less $$$ but pay lots of $$$ later on when the stuff goes bang Also count in deprecation. You car will be worth less with all that stuff on it (these are more than cosmetic mods). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 why dont you speak to RJN about staying N/A? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 why dont you speak to RJN about staying N/A? who are they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinbad Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 why dont you speak to RJN about staying N/A? who are they People who did this : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Supercharger dont have dump valve sound Of course, they do bypass or blowoff valve vents between shifts or on throttle back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 could go for supercharger but dies out too quick where as PE kit, they are smaller turbos so less lag and you get power at both lower and top end it's the other way about, the s/c develops its power at high revs and keeps coming exponentially to red line but is relatively stock-like up to say 4k revs (which is fine and just means you need to make more gear changes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam's Z Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 Supercharger dont have dump valve sound Of course, they do bypass or blowoff valve vents between shifts or on throttle back Hey the master is HERE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 The thing that puts me off of supercharger also is that I have heardso many time where every other day the cam belt keeps slipping wrong, twice in 8000 miles for me and a 5min adjustment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 22, 2008 Author Share Posted January 22, 2008 The thing that puts me off of supercharger also is that I have heardso many time where every other day the cam belt keeps slipping wrong, twice in 8000 miles for me and a 5min adjustment really? so I could fix if it does, what about noise clanging? and ecu remap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted January 22, 2008 Share Posted January 22, 2008 The thing that puts me off of supercharger also is that I have heardso many time where every other day the cam belt keeps slipping wrong, twice in 8000 miles for me and a 5min adjustment really? so I could fix if it does, what about noise clanging? and ecu remap? Yup, it can clatter all right which may not be to your taste; no ecu map needed 390-400 straight out the box on supplied piggy-back map still rckon you should go PE-TT though, what do envy say about set-up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 The thing that puts me off of supercharger also is that I have heardso many time where every other day the cam belt keeps slipping wrong, twice in 8000 miles for me and a 5min adjustment really? so I could fix if it does, what about noise clanging? and ecu remap? Yup, it can clatter all right which may not be to your taste; no ecu map needed 390-400 straight out the box on supplied piggy-back map still rckon you should go PE-TT though, what do envy say about set-up? they say they could send off my stock ecu to japan to have it flashed and returned within 14 days for around 700 quid. which sound much better than 3000k. But speaking to sumo he said dont do it as I will run into a few problems and wont solve longterm, the only way to do it properly is by a HKS V pro setup but that is 3k to fit and tune with abbey motorsport why didnt i get a jap car Im not spending a total of close to 9k for the conversion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest prescience Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 The UTEC EMS is well capable of handling the PE-TT. Sure you can pick up a UTEC with MAP sensor and map switch for around £700. RJN are familiar with UTEC and should be able to tune for you in 5-6 hours. can't see the cost being more than £1700 all in. I assume for the envy price, they install the TURBO kit, which then means you need to get the car to RJN for the tune on a low-loader or something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zedrush Posted January 23, 2008 Author Share Posted January 23, 2008 The UTEC EMS is well capable of handling the PE-TT. Sure you can pick up a UTEC with MAP sensor and map switch for around £700. RJN are familiar with UTEC and should be able to tune for you in 5-6 hours. can't see the cost being more than £1700 all in. I assume for the envy price, they install the TURBO kit, which then means you need to get the car to RJN for the tune on a low-loader or something 5800 then 1700 how about just get a UTEC on my car as it stands now, with nismo exhaust plenum cat and pop charger, surely that must get me to 320 alone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 The UTEC EMS is well capable of handling the PE-TT. Sure you can pick up a UTEC with MAP sensor and map switch for around £700. RJN are familiar with UTEC and should be able to tune for you in 5-6 hours. can't see the cost being more than £1700 all in. I assume for the envy price, they install the TURBO kit, which then means you need to get the car to RJN for the tune on a low-loader or something 5800 then 1700 how about just get a UTEC on my car as it stands now, with nismo exhaust plenum cat and pop charger, surely that must get me to 320 alone? Surley wouldnt be as high as 320? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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