jowen7448 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 (edited) In the interest of finding a reason to get back into GT6 myself and to reform the friendly competition amongst members of this site I present to you the GT6 Challenge Cup. I have started a new thread here so I can maintain the times for the new challenges. For the initial 3 challenges I chose 3 circuits and 3 cars aiming for a bit of variety. So I chose: Red Bull Ring in a mk1 Ford Focus RS: To celebrate the upcoming new RS on a simple track layout where understeer in the FF layout will hurt you. Spa Francorchamps in a Tesla model S signature performance: As with the RS there is an upcoming new model from Tesla as I am sure most of you know. What could be more different to the RS to drive than a high powered, high torque, electric rear wheel drive. Spa chosen as one of my favourite GP circuits that should provide a fairly technical challenge overall for the Tesla. I personally also find it really hard to get into a rhythm when the engine is on mute. Matterhorn Rotenboden in Nissan GTR (07): A car that needs no introduction, the mighty GTR. The circuit is full of steep gradients, blind crests, off camber bends and nightmare braking zones providing a hearty and frustrating challenge for the mighty beast. For this I propose completely stock, apart from an oil change (and a wash), any set up goes. I will try to maintain times periodically on this post. I am not Bernie Ecclestone so am happy for other challenge suggestions etc. However I will ask that anyone who throws down a new challenge maintains their own record of times until at least 5 others (6 in total) have attempted it. Once this is the case, send me a PM or whatever with all of those times and I will add it to this post and track it from that point. That should help make my job a little easier and weed out unpopular challenges. To submit your time, include your psn gamertag so that people can connect with each other if they so choose. Focus RS Red Bull Ring: saint - NA - 1:47.724 SuperStu - Reed_Rockhard - 1:47.839 jowen7448 - optimossprime - 1:47.946 Tesla Model S Spa: jowen7448 - optimossprime - 2:48.639 SuperStu - Reed_Rockhard - 2:48.819 GTR 07 Matterhorn: SuperStu - Reed_Rockhard - 1:40.246 jowen7448 - optimossprime - 1:40.592 Challenge Two Permitted Mods: Big Brake Kit, Stage 3 Weight Reduction, Racing Soft Tyres Cote d'Azure - Renault Sport Clio V6 24v 1:39.731 - SuperStu 1:39.798 - jowen7448 1.41.972 - Saint Circuito di Roma - KTM X-Bow R '12 1:04.712 - jowen7448 1:05.746 - SuperStu 1.06.715 - Saint Trial Mountain - Vauxhall VX220 Turbo 1:27.701 - SuperStu 1:27.833 - jowen7448 1.28.927 - Saint Let's race!!! Edited July 15, 2016 by SuperStu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 Game on! Now to spend all night swearing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Had half an hour to do a few laps this morning so took a few seconds off each time. Got to go out with the missus now, hope to see some times when I get back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Tyres Sports Hard yeah? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Whatever was delivered with the car. Which if I remember correctly is sports hard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 Firstly, what an interesting combination of tracks and cars you've put together I started with the GTR on Matterhorn, which was tremendous fun, except for the tank slappers in the fast downhill section, which kept catching me out at the limit. There's some painfully slow and tight sections for such a powerful and wide motor, and the management of the mass of the GTR was quite tricky. Next up the Tesla on Spa. Very eerie going round in near total silence but very rewarding to get it just right. The Tesla is a bit slow on the straights and you need to do the tiniest little steering adjustments in the bends to keep it on the tightrope between grip and the grass. It's a very strange car that loves to understeer in and mid corner, then just as you think you're getting away, it oversteers like mad. My favorite combo this one. RBR in the Focus wasn't much fun for me, the understeer on the downhill, heavy braking, sharp bends was appalling. This, though not enjoyable, made it very taxing to get right. I don't know if I'm talking out of school here but the track limits on corners 1 & 2 and the last two are very forgiving. i.e. You can cut the hell out of the first two and go super wide on the last two without the lap being ruled invalid by the computer. Times RBR 1:50.331 (TCS 1, ABS 1.) Spa 2:51.083 (TCS 3, ABS 1.) Matterhorn 1:45.690 (TCS 1, ABS 1.) Completely stock cars, as they come from the dealer. Manual transmission. No oil, no washing! I did about 15 laps of each to gather those times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 Firstly, what an interesting combination of tracks and cars you've put together I started with the GTR on Matterhorn, which was tremendous fun, except for the tank slappers in the fast downhill section, which kept catching me out at the limit. There's some painfully slow and tight sections for such a powerful and wide motor, and the management of the mass of the GTR was quite tricky. Next up the Tesla on Spa. Very eerie going round in near total silence but very rewarding to get it just right. The Tesla is a bit slow on the straights and you need to do the tiniest little steering adjustments in the bends to keep it on the tightrope between grip and the grass. It's a very strange car that loves to understeer in and mid corner, then just as you think you're getting away, it oversteers like mad. My favorite combo this one. RBR in the Focus wasn't much fun for me, the understeer on the downhill, heavy braking, sharp bends was appalling. This, though not enjoyable, made it very taxing to get right. I don't know if I'm talking out of school here but the track limits on corners 1 & 2 and the last two are very forgiving. i.e. You can cut the hell out of the first two and go super wide on the last two without the lap being ruled invalid by the computer. Times RBR 1:50.331 (TCS 1, ABS 1.) Spa 2:51.083 (TCS 3, ABS 1.) Matterhorn 1:45.690 (TCS 1, ABS 1.) Completely stock cars, as they come from the dealer. Manual transmission. No oil, no washing! I did about 15 laps of each to gather those times. Glad you enjoyed the challenges, sorry RBR wasn't your cup of tea, I was quite enjoying that one, although I hadn't realised when I started it quite how forgiving the track limits would be which does take away from it a little. Got some time this afternoon now I think so will have a proper go at each one. Will update OP to include your times, do you want to share your psn gamertag Stu and do you want it putting up next to your time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 9, 2016 Share Posted April 9, 2016 No probs, we all go for different combos. The challenge is turning ones you don't find easy around, so I'll get to grips with RBR and the Focus with a little time. Edit: Forgot about the tag, I'll add it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 No worries, I have to admit I hadn't realised quite how much you could cut off the corners, I am now finding that almost whatever I do the lap is not made invalid. I am still enjoying the RBR one though as trying to keep on top of the focus understeer while keeping momentum up feels like a fine balancing act, especially through the 3 quick bends half way round the circuit. Any way, cut a couple more seconds off the first two, not gone back to matterhorn yet, I did have some help though: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 9, 2016 Author Share Posted April 9, 2016 No probs, we all go for different combos. The challenge is turning ones you don't find easy around, so I'll get to grips with RBR and the Focus with a little time. Edit: Forgot about the tag, I'll add it. Was sat there wondering how on Earth my original post had been updated with your gamertag until I remembered you have mod magic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Update for Spa 2:49.421 Had good go at this this morning, you're setting a fast pace mate I know there's a tenth out there in Eau Rouge and a couple more through Pouhon to Curve Paul Frere, but I need a break and it's car washing weather! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 (edited) You aren't wrong. Am sat in mine at the moment having a breather. Washed, clayed, and then 3 stage paint treatment, clean Polish and wax. Full interior hoovered and wiped down. Just contemplating treating the leather seats to some feed and restore stuff. On topic I reckon I have a few tenths from malmedy to pouhon entrance over my best time. Although I consistently am a tenth or two down by the end of the kemmel straight. Absolutely nailed eau rouge on my best time so far. Apart from that reckon there is a few more tenths here and there if I knitted together all my best sectors. I found I consistently improved on this one by shifting brake balance forward slightly to help with the big stops into les combes and bus stop. The one that's winding me up is matterhorn. I know I have at least a second there if not more. But it's sooo hard to keep every bend together as the bumps etc have the car so on edge. If I have more time once I have finished out here I will have another go. Edited April 10, 2016 by jowen7448 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Not played with the brake balance yet, good idea. As it's stock I've just stayed out of the car config. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 There isn't much you can change to be fair. Haven't messed about with ballast yet but I personally never get much out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 Forget ballast, brake balance is where it's at! Thanks for the tip - new Spa 2:48.819 Switching to Matterhorn next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 No problem. Sorry your reign at the top didn't last long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 It's only a matter of time now I know the secret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 1:47.724 on RBR but cheating lots! The game says it's ok to invent a new turn 1! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 10, 2016 Author Share Posted April 10, 2016 Well done, good on u for admitting untoward tactics. I'm considering pulling RBR as the track limits seem to be somewhere outside of Austria. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 I had to upload this for two reasons; one the battered state of the GTR after a few "moments" going at it on Matterhorn and two because at no point on this lap did I feel like the car was under control The circuit is just mad at high speed! Great choice 1:41.507 but there's loads more out there if you have the minerals and a bit of luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Well done, good on u for admitting untoward tactics. I'm considering pulling RBR as the track limits seem to be somewhere outside of Austria. Well I was dedicated to finding the quickest way to cut the corners! Theres a skill to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 Wow nice one, that lap looks very under control. Well played. Certainly laid down a bit of a challenge there. I will have to find some time this week to try knock u off the top spot again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 And saint, fair play. Rules are same for all. You are best so far. Would you like your gamertag adding to the OP so others can add you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 Wow nice one, that lap looks very under control. Didn't feel it flying throug the air over that huge downhill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jowen7448 Posted April 11, 2016 Author Share Posted April 11, 2016 Wow nice one, that lap looks very under control. Didn't feel it flying throug the air over that huge downhill That did make me chuckle. Having another go at this had been added to my todo list, I will reclaim first prize muahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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