Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Britain holds some. Not all. As before it's a game of who blinks first. If there is any backlash or uprising against the EU'still superstate proposal (which in my opinion is frighteningly similar to the "final solution" proposed by a failed Austrian painter several decades ago), then we may see the EU blink first. But we will need to dig deep in the UK before that happens. How much pressure can be piled on before Boris or whoever simply states "balls to that, better riots on our own streets than financial meltdown. We're staying in." At which point expect a raft of incoming red tape and legislation to teach us for being a naughty trouble maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) My old boss from when I lived in France stuck this up on FB today, shows in the main why Leave won, they got a better turn out from the older age groups who were more likely to vote Leave. I saw all the youngsters out demonstrating in Westminster yesterday, shame more didn't do something simpler and walk around the corner to their voting station and write a cross in a box. Didn't completely go off and check all the numbers but wouldnt be surprised if this is correct data. Edited June 30, 2016 by coldel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Typical attitude from the youth of today. Expect everything to be handed on a plate, kick up a fuss when something doesn't go their way, but do absolutely naff all toward achieving what they want. Would be interesting to know how many of those out protesting actually bothered to vote. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Typical attitude from the youth of today. Expect everything to be handed on a plate, kick up a fuss when something doesn't go their way, but do absolutely naff all toward achieving what they want. Would be interesting to know how many of those out protesting actually bothered to vote. If you replaced the word 'youth' with 'black people' would your comment be acceptable? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Typical attitude from the youth of today. Expect everything to be handed on a plate, kick up a fuss when something doesn't go their way, but do absolutely naff all toward achieving what they want. Would be interesting to know how many of those out protesting actually bothered to vote. If you replaced the word 'youth' with 'black people' would your comment be acceptable? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 What exactly is there to facepalm about? You can't be prejudice and stereotypical about an ethnicity but you can about a generation? k 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WINKJ Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) What exactly is there to facepalm about? You can't be prejudice and stereotypical about an ethnicity but you can about a generation? k i agree with you - but the facepalm is the fact that you have to raise it on a thread about the EU referendum. just gets tiring people trying to make a point all the time edit: i guess i don't have to read it ... Edited June 30, 2016 by WINKJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Everyone's offended by something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Everyone's offended by something Yeah usually you but you have to be a good boy these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 It's not prejudice and stereotypical though is it? Majority of those protesting are the young. Group with the lowest voter turnout is the young. Be offended if you like. It's true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyZ Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Indeed. Everyone's prejudiced about something as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Boris is out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS8055 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 My old boss from when I lived in France stuck this up on FB today, shows in the main why Leave won, they got a better turn out from the older age groups who were more likely to vote Leave. I saw all the youngsters out demonstrating in Westminster yesterday, shame more didn't do something simpler and walk around the corner to their voting station and write a cross in a box. Didn't completely go off and check all the numbers but wouldnt be surprised if this is correct data. I would be interested to find out whether the total number of figures per age group took into account voters that were not provided the chance to have a vote in the first place (such as myself) despite being a UK passport holder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoD Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Everyone's offended by something Yeah usually you but you have to be a good boy these days. Na i just know most of the people aren't worth the wasted calories typing and im someone looking to loose weight. but i do see both sides of it the young complaining and old going thinking they know better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zxrob Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 How come GBP is up about 1% against pretty much everything today, FTSE100 up 220 points, FTSE250 up 500 points... and yet my Facebook isn't screaming with idiots saying the economy isn't doomed after all? Because to most in the city it is just a big game, that game being dealing with "virtual assets" What actually happened is they (the financial sector) took it upon themselves to play the "curry's" approach, bang the markets/exchange rate up just before the "big sale" Stability will return Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Boris will not run as leader, for now. I don't think he has the stomach for the next couple of years balancing a now fragile economy and negotiating a deal which will most likely not appease the masses that voted for things which are unlikely now to appear. It's going to be a no win seat if you ask me. So, smart move by our resident parliamentary clown? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Boris will not run as leader, for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 (edited) So what has this: Typical attitude from the youth of today. Expect everything to be handed on a plate, kick up a fuss when something doesn't go their way, but do absolutely naff all toward achieving what they want. Got to do with this: Majority of those protesting are the young. Group with the lowest voter turnout is the young. You've made two separate comments. Your first comment is unfounded and based on your preconceptions of a generation (prejudice) it also includes a broad statement suggesting that 'the youth of today' are (I'm paraphrasing here) lazy and entitled (stereotyping). I know people on this thread are probably going to get all British about this and tell me to give it a rest (ooooops) but I'm not sure why it's acceptable to make comments like that. Edited June 30, 2016 by mouthwash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 So what has this: Typical attitude from the youth of today. Expect everything to be handed on a plate, kick up a fuss when something doesn't go their way, but do absolutely naff all toward achieving what they want. Got to do with this: Majority of those protesting are the young. Group with the lowest voter turnout is the young. You've made two separate comments. Your first comment is unfounded and based on your preconceptions of a generation (prejudice) Other than my first statement being based on the factual evidence of the second. Which kind of blows a slight hole in the "prejudice" part of your argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 No it doesn't, where is your evidence? What is your evidence? A Graph? That proves what? People didn't vote? Why didn't they vote? You've come to the conclusion it's because they're lazy and entitled? How did you come to that conclusion? Seems to me like you've just made a bunch of stuff up based on your own opinion. There are no facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Ian, just "give it a rest" buddy! :lol: If you find offensive what Chris said, just report him to the Admins On a serious note, who else wants Theresa May as the next PM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouthwash Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I don't find it offensive, in fact for total clarity I'm lazy and entitled (sadly not in the young demographic anymore). I'm sure you would challenge him if he made the exact same comment about Romanian people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 There are no facts. We're it not for the facts, that would be true. Just one example of a report into youth voting apathy. http://irep.ntu.ac.uk/9789/1/196450_334.pdf Also, why do these people suddenly become bothered or able to vote later in life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chesterfield Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I'm sure you would challenge him if he made the exact same comment about Romanian people. He would have just cause to be, as there would be no basis to make judgements that Romanians are lazy or apathetic to voting. Whereas there are plenty of reports and studies into lower youth voting turnout. And it's not just a UK problem either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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