BobbyZ Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Hamilton is so far up his own bottom, he thinks that he's due it, the boy is a knob, put him in a Red Bull and he would be out qualified and out driven by the 'upstart' Verstappen all day everyday. Like the Beavis lad, I'm glad that there's some excitement about this now. Hamilton in an average car? He'd be an average driver, Verstappen in the current Mercedes would be unstoppable. Hopefully, the new batch coming along will add to the mix. Whatever you think of Hamilton's personality, I think your claims about Verstappen being better are a bit wide of the mark. It's generally accepted that Hamilton is very quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I reckon F1 should have a race in the calendar where they stick all the drivers in identical karts and let them go at it - I bet it would be awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 it'd be great to just see an equal playing field, but F1 is as much about the technology of the cars as who is the best driver. personally, I think F1 should reduce the championship calendar to 15 races, and then have 6 exhibition races, where they can try out various things like ballast, reverse grids, short sprint races, enforced choice of tyres, balance of performance on the cars, all that kind of stuff. Without affecting the overall championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Yeah totally get its about the full package, but would be nice to at least throw some actual races into the whole 'who is the best driver' debate as we really do not know (as can be seen above). One race where all are in roughly the same cars would be fantastic viewing and a great opportunity for the real 'racers' on the grid to go to town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Isnt that gp2, lol? Even then people would debate who was fastest, you would still have mechanical failures, accidents causing dnf's A championship isnt about the "fastest" driver winning, its about who has been the most complete package over a season,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ^ Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Yes, I get that too, but we get so much willy waving in F1, would be good to see them go flat out against each other for one race. Given all things equal, for instance going through a qualifying session and subsequent short race in karts where lets face it mechanical failures are much less likely to happen, how would the top 5 come out, in order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Hamilton and Rosberg crash first corner and are both out, Alonso wins but some still will say Hamilton is the fastest, haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Surely Verstappen would fancy his chances with the shackles off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 And would Rosberg even be near the front on the first corner, would have thought he would have qualified much further back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 And would Rosberg even be near the front on the first corner, would have thought he would have qualified much further back! I just used Rosberg as an example seeing as he is at the heart of the conversation and he has out qualified Hamilton 8 times this season (hardly a lame duck is he), the point being, it will never be an even playing field in any format and thats beauty of motorsport, as said somewhere else, you may as well just vote on the who is the fastest and give them the title and forget the whole season if thats what is wanted every year, but that isnt motorsport 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I never said motorsport would be, just that for the fun of it (and the original post was very tongue in cheek) stick all the drivers in the same spec kart made by the same company and send them out. Yes a few might break down but you would certainly see who the racers are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Rosberg has announced his retirement!! http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/38185846 Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Rosberg has announced his retirement!! http://www.bbc.co.uk...rmula1/38185846 Pete He has probably driven the 2017 Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 well that's interesting news! wonder who is going to replace him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ^^ Good on him, achieved what he set out to do and retired on a high Verstappen, please please please 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ^^ Good on him, achieved what he set out to do and retired on a high Verstappen, please please please Verstappen will already be in the best car for 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The G Man Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ^^ Good on him, achieved what he set out to do and retired on a high Verstappen, please please please With the Merc bosses seemingly close relationship with Verstappen's father, I hope that this is more than likely. If it does happen, I'm looking forward to Hamilton throwing his dummy out more often 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 I think it'll be someone from a smaller team, someone like Bottas, or Hulkenberg... still, next year is going to be a complete change of guard, 3 big names retiring now, and raikonnen is probably for the chop. could be a whole load more verstappens next year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy_Baton Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 (edited) I reckon F1 should have a race in the calendar where they stick all the drivers in identical karts and let them go at it - I bet it would be awesome! Didn't they used to do this but in actual go karts? I remember seeing it a few times on Eurosport probably ~10-15 years ago though. Think it was called something like king of the track, possible had other motor sports involved. Think this might be it - I can't open youtube at work, so I'm going on the google description! Edited December 2, 2016 by Randy_Baton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 ^^ The Hulk wouldnt be a bad shout, how about a full team of whingers, get Vettel in there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_83 Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Tate now Roseberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Alonso? Hates the McLaren, only a year or so left at the top, gives Merc a top driver, and gives them more time to woo Max. Or Vettel is another good shout. He's not happy at Ferrari, and they don't like him very much anymore either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 Was going to get a sneaky £10 on Alonso for the win (before a possible move), best odds 29.1, jeez the grid would have self destruct every race for a maclaren to win, thats poor odds. Hulk at 250:1 though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul K Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 unless he is shackled by a lengthy contract, I would have though that the Merc bosses would like Vettel in the seat. I did ponder if Hamiton and Vettel would have exchanged seats in a few seasons,as I felt that Merc would have liked to have an all german team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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