docwra Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Not as good. The tech isnt up there with the Z33, although the lower weight goes a long way to countering this they dont generate the grip or confidence you get in the bigger car, at least not without spending cash. They are snappier and less direct whether youre gripping or drifting IMO. Weirdly I was going to add the FD to the bottom as an alternative, the money is a bit more for a good un but I think they will undoubtedly hold value better, modding isnt so cheap though 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarmac@TarmacSportz Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The 'S's seem to be really popular in some corners, but I really can't really see why. They're not especially pretty, do they have an amazing chassis or engine? Or is there a cult element I just don't know about? Sorry, been a bit busy. For those that dont know Im the Chairman of SXOC, and Ive owned various S chassis, only driven S15 though. The popularity is due to IMO to 4 things: RWD, LSD and reasonable quick as standard, easily tuneable and relatively light. If you can think of another car that does all of that Ill be impressed. The turbo kick and weight makes them more exciting than Z33 to drive and they are actually pretty practical - big boots and can be 4 seaters if youve only got little legs The Zed is a generation later though, the chassis on an S15 dates back to the S13 (1988), the SR20 despite being a quality engine was being used from 1990 and the interiors can feel a bit sparse and dated, they can be a bit rusty as well, even S15. I came very close to buying an S15 instead of my Zed but didnt because I was worried Id get carried away and have another 400hp driftcar within 2 weeks rather than a daily and Im probably glad I did, but if youre looking for something to modify, track or drift Id have a serious look at them. Prices are a source of comedy for many long term S chassis owners - I bought a mint S13 in 2010 for under a grand and you could pick S14's up for roughly the same until about 2 years ago. Since then drifting seems to have got a lot bigger, numbers are falling so values are going up - if I was in the market Id be looking directly at S15 as they are that much newer and nicer (although I still harbour deep love for S13) The S14 Tarmac posted is horribly overpriced for what it is and thats the biggest problem with these badgirls, there is huge variety in conditions, modifications and miles so people just take a chance. For comparison this one is about (w)as good as S14's get: http://www.sxoc.com/...White-Huge-Spec and this Id buy in a second if I had the space: http://www.sxoc.com/...w-SR22-big-spec, I know the car and the owner well Feel free to ask anything youd like to know, theres not many people who know them better than I do, Ive written off 5 (6 if you include the S12) to start with Admittedly I don't know what I am looking at with these models at all, the one on eBay does look nice though. The problem for me with the ones you have linked to is that as gorgeous as they are... they are pretty much done. I would rather choose my own mods and personalise it myself rather than one that is highly modified already so a more standard one would be preferable. Did you see the white S15 on DWs? Whats your thoughts on that one bud? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Iv always liked the look of s bodies, have considered the 14 and 15 in the past myself But surprised no one else asked zeppojeff- how can you consider a stock s15 when you've not finished your build?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppoJeff Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 Iv always liked the look of s bodies, have considered the 14 and 15 in the past myself But surprised no one else asked zeppojeff- how can you consider a stock s15 when you've not finished your build?? I'm not sure really. Just always liked them and fancied a second car for drifting etc. Not sure what direction to go with the zed next. Interior? Audio? Handling? Power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docwra Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Horses for courses, Id prefer to buy one specced as it works out a lot cheaper but I know what Id be after in said specced vehicle An S15 with Nistune, 740cc injectors and a GT2871R will be knocking on 400hp, stick £1000 coilovers and a few arms on it and youre well away, a 2 way diff would also be on my wishlist but thats just me. Brakes are OK but could do with upgrade for track efforts and Aero always looks lovely on them but the genuine article costs money, Id probably just leave it as is and make sure I keep it clean 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 So your keeping the zed? That's ok then Leave the zed as it is with a few tweaks here and there and go all out on the Silvia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppoJeff Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 So your keeping the zed? That's ok then Leave the zed as it is with a few tweaks here and there and go all out on the Silvia Yeah the zed is staying...could never get rid of her. The only way I'd ever get rid of her would be for a r35 gtr and even then I'd still do everything to keep her. Seems getting power out of a s15 is just a lot cheaper and by what I've heard meant to be a lot of fun to drive. Still have to think a lot about it and when I've the money I'll decide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Show car zed as your daily and an s15 drift toy would be awesome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I wanted an s14 for years until drifting became really popular. Prices increased and unmolested examples decreased. Last time I looked at S15's they were rare and circa 15k. The Z seemed like such a bargain and more car in comparison despite lack of a blower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeppoJeff Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share Posted December 22, 2015 I wanted an s14 for years until drifting became really popular. Prices increased and unmolested examples decreased. Last time I looked at S15's they were rare and circa 15k. The Z seemed like such a bargain and more car in comparison despite lack of a blower. I spoke to jm imports inbetween having the 2 zeds and if I recall he was saying he could import a good example s15 spec r for about £8500 on the road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran O'Quick Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 re-reading it now, so could have hidden rust patches. Does the graded define if its a cat c/d car? The fact that it has been under-sealed would put me off. You've no way of knowing it's condition - it's all painted over in black tar. It could be genuine but unless you know the guy and trust him it's a gamble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justthejedi Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 It's still priced competitively compared to others out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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