Ebized Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 On 25/11/2015 at 17:46, Ekona said: Can a mod please edit the title, my OCD can't take the rogue apostrophe any more She'll be done now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernow zed Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I use either shell v power or momentum. That doesnt mean the previous owners used the good stuff though. They could have used the ordinary stuff but i have no way of knowing except that at 90k it still goes well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 On 25/11/2015 at 18:04, HaydnH said: On 25/11/2015 at 17:56, JetSet said: On 25/11/2015 at 16:49, Richf said: The base fuels may be very similar but Momentum contains much more ethanol than V power/nitro + In that case, I've no idea if and when ethanol is added at Stanlow. All refined gasoline will have to be approved by the lab before it leaves Stanlow. This is fairly straightforward if you are only supplying for one customer but if you are supplying 5 or 6 customers with different specifications it means extra storage, extra lab technicians and higher costs. It was industry standard when I worked there for U.K refineries to distribute exactly the same stuff to different petrol stations, it may have changed but I somehow doubt it. Pete Maybe the different ingredients only exist in the marketing brochures? This was certainly true in the 60's and probably well into the 80's. The thing is, the specs for gasoline and indeed diesel are very tight and there's not an awful lot of room to make any real differences. As far as additives go, I worked on the original detergent that went into Shell Optimax and the treatment level was so incredibly low that you only needed 1ml in 40 litres of petrol. The main differences/problems in the 70's were water or rust in the underground storage tanks at petrol stations. This had a huge influence on drivers choice of which brand of fuel they filled up with or where they filled up. Another thing these days is choice, it's 30 miles from our house to my step daughters house in Winsford, dual carriageway and A roads all the way, number of fuel stations....just one. Coming back from Telford a few weeks ago I drove 30 miles before I found somewhere to fill up. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggalo Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 On 25/11/2015 at 17:56, JetSet said: On 25/11/2015 at 16:49, Richf said: The base fuels may be very similar but Momentum contains much more ethanol than V power/nitro + In that case, I've no idea if and when ethanol is added at Stanlow. All refined gasoline will have to be approved by the lab before it leaves Stanlow. This is fairly straightforward if you are only supplying for one customer but if you are supplying 5 or 6 customers with different specifications it means extra storage, extra lab technicians and higher costs. It was industry standard when I worked there for U.K refineries to distribute exactly the same stuff to different petrol stations, it may have changed but I somehow doubt it. Pete Yeah, I'd like to see evidence of more ethanol. Like you say, if you want a specific recipe, the price goes up. There's no logic in Tesco asking for Shell petrol...with added anything, let alone ethanol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyder Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 I usually use Momentum as frankly Tesco is much cheaper than the Shell garages near where I live. Though handily if I have to splash and dash there's a Shell garage on the outskirts of the village. Interestingly since I've had the car and only run it on V-Power or Momentum the dodgy fuel gauge seems to have reduced the frequency of giving dubious readings. I wondered if the fuel was cleaning the contacts up and improving perhaps the previous only was only using poverty fuel. ( thankfully she didn't seem the type to take it over 5k RPM on a regular basis) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance350 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 A mate was telling me that Tesco fuel is just normal 95 with lots of additives in and shell fuel is far superior, burns cleaner. blah blah blah.. TBF I cant tell the difference and I live near Tesco so Tesco wins for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bradders- Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 26/11/2015 at 10:46, lance350 said: A mate was telling me that Tesco fuel is just normal 95 with lots of additives in and shell fuel is far superior, burns cleaner. blah blah blah.. TBF I cant tell the difference and I live near Tesco so Tesco wins for me. Your mate was lying to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Sainsburys super unleaded FTW! my zed ran perfectly fine on it for three years, and nectar points are always useful. Plus its cheap, 108.9 at the moment! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Bradders- Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 didnt know they did super lol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brillomaster Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 they certainly do, at every pump in posh leamington. Its only 97RON but as Ekona says, it conforms to all the standards for super unleaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabbitstew Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I ran my HR 350z on either Shell V-Power or Tesco`s equivalent (depending which garage was nearest when i was on empty) for 18 months and have to say I noticed no difference at all in performance or economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance350 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 He is off the Xmas card list!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Chris Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Tesco lard is 99p but Lidl lard is 97p. Will my chips taste different? Is my frying pan going to throw a rod or crack my ring? How confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 26/11/2015 at 13:06, Toon Chris said: Tesco lard is 99p but Lidl lard is 97p. . You still use lard? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richf Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 25/11/2015 at 21:34, Juggalo said: On 25/11/2015 at 17:56, JetSet said: On 25/11/2015 at 16:49, Richf said: The base fuels may be very similar but Momentum contains much more ethanol than V power/nitro + In that case, I've no idea if and when ethanol is added at Stanlow. All refined gasoline will have to be approved by the lab before it leaves Stanlow. This is fairly straightforward if you are only supplying for one customer but if you are supplying 5 or 6 customers with different specifications it means extra storage, extra lab technicians and higher costs. It was industry standard when I worked there for U.K refineries to distribute exactly the same stuff to different petrol stations, it may have changed but I somehow doubt it. Pete Yeah, I'd like to see evidence of more ethanol. Like you say, if you want a specific recipe, the price goes up. There's no logic in Tesco asking for Shell petrol...with added anything, let alone ethanol. http://lmgtfy.com/?q=tesco+momentum+ethanol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Chris Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 26/11/2015 at 13:09, JetSet said: On 26/11/2015 at 13:06, Toon Chris said: Tesco lard is 99p but Lidl lard is 97p. . You still use lard? Pete D'y'know, cooking with veg fat like sunflower oil is really bad for you. When you heat veg oil you get all sorts of nasty carcinogens. And I run a lot so need the calories Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coldel Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 26/11/2015 at 13:12, Richf said: On 25/11/2015 at 21:34, Juggalo said: On 25/11/2015 at 17:56, JetSet said: On 25/11/2015 at 16:49, Richf said: The base fuels may be very similar but Momentum contains much more ethanol than V power/nitro + In that case, I've no idea if and when ethanol is added at Stanlow. All refined gasoline will have to be approved by the lab before it leaves Stanlow. This is fairly straightforward if you are only supplying for one customer but if you are supplying 5 or 6 customers with different specifications it means extra storage, extra lab technicians and higher costs. It was industry standard when I worked there for U.K refineries to distribute exactly the same stuff to different petrol stations, it may have changed but I somehow doubt it. Pete Yeah, I'd like to see evidence of more ethanol. Like you say, if you want a specific recipe, the price goes up. There's no logic in Tesco asking for Shell petrol...with added anything, let alone ethanol. http://lmgtfy.com/?q...omentum ethanol Actually googling it brings up plenty of debate on forums from people citing 'their mate' who may or may not be an expert in the field, but no hard facts that I saw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 26/11/2015 at 13:35, coldel said: Actually googling it brings up plenty of debate on forums from people citing 'their mate' who may or may not be an expert in the field, but no hard facts that I saw. But it's on the internet, so it must be true. Even the bits that contradict each other... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juggalo Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 On 26/11/2015 at 13:12, Richf said: On 25/11/2015 at 21:34, Juggalo said: On 25/11/2015 at 17:56, JetSet said: On 25/11/2015 at 16:49, Richf said: The base fuels may be very similar but Momentum contains much more ethanol than V power/nitro + In that case, I've no idea if and when ethanol is added at Stanlow. All refined gasoline will have to be approved by the lab before it leaves Stanlow. This is fairly straightforward if you are only supplying for one customer but if you are supplying 5 or 6 customers with different specifications it means extra storage, extra lab technicians and higher costs. It was industry standard when I worked there for U.K refineries to distribute exactly the same stuff to different petrol stations, it may have changed but I somehow doubt it. Pete Yeah, I'd like to see evidence of more ethanol. Like you say, if you want a specific recipe, the price goes up. There's no logic in Tesco asking for Shell petrol...with added anything, let alone ethanol. http://lmgtfy.com/?q...omentum ethanol Mouthbreathers from what I can see. "Some bloke told me...", "I read some where that..." Can you post a specific link from an authority that can substantiate the claim that Tesco fuel has more ethanol in it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Both are fine... Tescos cheaper...so thats what I use lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff king Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Tesco are 10p per litre cheaper than shell and bp in Milton Keynes so with the heads up on it being just as good in quality that's what I'll be using from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyder Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Yeah I try to fill up at Tesco in MK instead of the Shell garages as its so much cheaper there. I've driven around the past 3 days playing the fuel light lottery until I can get there tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 It's a lot easier for me to fill up at Shell, there's always a 10 minute queue at Tesco and it's further away. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gsexr Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 (edited) https://www.tescopfs...r-stations/faqs http://www.simplemotoring.co.uk/supermarket-vs-branded-fuels/#.VldOhljhDT8 might help yer if yer can be bothered to read it Edited November 26, 2015 by gsexr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kraziekatz1 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 Blimey, I'll sleep well tonight lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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