Luke350 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Hi all. As said in title. I'm buying a zed really soon. Just wondering is it worth paying a bit extra to get an 06 model with nicer interior and more powerful engine? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargara Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Id just buy the best example in your budget regardless if that is facelift or not. Id rather have a well kept, good DE than a ropey no service history HR for example Edited November 8, 2015 by Sargara 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Wise words above. I have never driven a rev up but understand there is nothing in it engine wise, you get a 500 rpm higher redline, a few more hp but less torque. There are also cases of the rev up using oil. The interior and slight face lift bumper are really the deciding points imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Don't worry about the engine, but the updated interior and exterior is well worth it IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Some years ago there was a significant price premium for a facelift 350Z but nowadays there's not that much in it. Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BulletMagnet Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 You could buy a DE and retrofit HR interior into it if it's that important Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke350 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 The interior is quite important to me. Good to hear engine is sound on both models. But I've heard a lot of complaints about the older interior. That was why Nissan updated it. What differences are there in the engine bay to make the slightly more power and less torque? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humpy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Where are you based? Get yourself to some zed meets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke350 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Wigan. Northwest. Happy to. As soon as I get one! Got an Impreza STI at the minute with a lot of work done to it. Got bored of how raw and mental it is. Plus 350z's are much nicer looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 If you can put a bit more by and get a well serviced HR, its worth it. Otherwise just look for a well serviced car, not sure I'd pay a 'lot' more for a 296 when a well sorted 275 will do you 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy.farrow7 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Any 350z registered after 1st of April 2006 will pay significantly higher tax bracket as well. DE's are cheaper to modify as well i believe. I would rather get a good example DE as people above have said rather than a worse example HR, after all its still a Z and makes everyone happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke350 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Sounds like interior isn't as big of a deal as I thought from the comments. At the risk of sounding dumb. What do DE and HR stand for? Is there a thread that notes all the differences? Don't want to be asking a question that's been answered a million times. And yes the tax jumps up to £505 per year on the HRs (ouch) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargara Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 DE and HR refer to Nissan's codes for the engines. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_VQ_engine Have a read about halfway down the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke350 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 It looks like the 06 model still has the DE in it. It's only the 07 onwards that get the HR engine in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke350 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Thanks for the link sargara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 It looks like the 06 model still has the DE in it. It's only the 07 onwards that get the HR engine in it. Yup, 06 cars have the De RevUp engine with produces 20BHP more than the 03-05 cars. There are slight exceptions such as late registered cars and the GT4 limited edition model in 05 with has the old exterior and interior, but the 06 RevUp engine. The RevUp and HR both have the same interior and exterior (except bonnet bulge to accommodate taller HR engine), the only difference is the engine. If I ever get back into a 350, it'll 100% be an HR. The interior differences are subtle and some may not notice, but the centre console and doorcards are different and IMO better. The exterior differences include all for lights (much better looking than the DE's and worth the premium on their own) and the front bumper in mildly different, plus the bonnet on the HR as previously mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 The best bits about the facelift models are the rear LED's and the bi-xenon headlights. You can of course fit the LED's to an early DE, 5 minute job and indeed the bi-xenons will also fit but that's a pretty expensive job. The interior is better but still leaves it someway short of the competition. The extra 20 bhp is mostly soaked up by the extra weight of the facelift, a fairly significant 70kg's. Pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMT Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Besides engine wise (HR is still the one to go for if you can) the interiors although minor make a difference. Go see the two types and sit in them physically.. the lighter grey colour around facelift versions makes a nicer difference to the slightly 'bin liner' colours of the DE (sorry lol). The silver bits and slight colour changes make a lot of difference if your sitting in something every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 a fairly significant 70kg's. Well i didnt know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gareth29 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 What did they add that weighed 70kg?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSet Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 What did they add that weighed 70kg?? That's a very good question. On the face of it, I wouldn't have thought that the visible part of the facelift couldn't have added more than a few kg's. Rays came as standard from 06 onwards so maybe a few kilos there? So you have to presume that they did a lot of undocumented changes such as beefing up the chassis. The HR is pretty much the same weight as the 06 facelift BTW. I've got the weights from various sources and presume they are correct. So, it's a bit of a mystery. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke350 Posted November 8, 2015 Author Share Posted November 8, 2015 Wow. Looking like 07 onwards may be worth the extra pennies. Plus it should be worth more to sell too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KyleR Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 What did they add that weighed 70kg?? That's a very good question. On the face of it, I wouldn't have thought that the visible part of the facelift couldn't have added more than a few kg's. Rays came as standard from 06 onwards so maybe a few kilos there? So you have to presume that they did a lot of undocumented changes such as beefing up the chassis. The HR is pretty much the same weight as the 06 facelift BTW. I've got the weights from various sources and presume they are correct. So, it's a bit of a mystery. Pete I'm still puzzled as to the 70kg, but Various sources agree with you. The Rays would lower the weight by probably 15kg over the 4 wheels and the visible changed would surely add next to nothing, under a kilo IMO as the bumper is just a slightly different shape and so the the centre console, no ore and no less plastic, just a different shape I wasn't aware of the chassis adjustments, but surely they couldn't have added 70kg extra metal? It would be interesting to get a 2004 and 2006 and weigh them side by side to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I wasnt aware there were chassis changes, I thought all the suspension components were the same and interchangeable Inc brakes. Often increased safety measures makes a difference, but there isnt any difference between the 2 to my knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke350 Posted November 9, 2015 Author Share Posted November 9, 2015 A hidden bar of gold in one of the many hidden compartments maybe?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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