terribleone Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 http://www.havoline.com/uk/the_programme.html [edit] I'm guessing you can't buy the stuff, it has to be used by an authorised dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Yeah they told me to run the tank low and give it a blast down the motorway when its had warmed up. What would you consider to be low? Would you add the whole bottle to a quarter tank and run it until you need to refuel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Told me between a quarter and empty,put the full bottle in then run till need to refuel.He said give it about a week.I am on a quarter tank now so should get it in today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Thanks for the advice ... I've just been on the phone to the stealers and they do have some in stock at £11.99 ... i'm running on near empty so might just fill up £20 of fuel and use it today ... Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeindian Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Who told you every 6 months Neil? Bottle is 350 ml. only what i read on this page quote from page: It's important in order to maximise the benefits of these treatments and keep your fuel system clean, that you have your vehicle retreated every 6 months by your authorised dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Just had a thought,what petrol do people use with this problem.I generally use tesco 99 ron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeindian Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 Just had a thought,what petrol do people use with this problem.I generally use tesco 99 ron. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 I usually use Sainsbury's Super Unleaded ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 this is a clean of the throttle body lads nothing else.... same things happens to mine sometimes and i just clean out the tb and thats it, takes about 15-20 min.... do you guys need a writeup on it? could do it during the week if you need to so you can spend monies on something more useful! like mods... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeindian Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 this is a clean of the throttle body lads nothing else.... same things happens to mine sometimes and i just clean out the tb and thats it, takes about 15-20 min.... do you guys need a writeup on it? could do it during the week if you need to so you can spend monies on something more useful! like mods... if you could mate that would be great!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 did this on the altezza yesterday... epic fail on my part of me for never doing that before... it was SO dirty! cleaned out the filter too... revs better and doesnt feel like a tractor when cold... better start looking after that poor yoke now I'll get on it Monday if its not pissing rain as normal.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fakeindian Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 good man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 14, 2010 Share Posted February 14, 2010 this is a clean of the throttle body lads nothing else.... same things happens to mine sometimes and i just clean out the tb and thats it, takes about 15-20 min.... do you guys need a writeup on it? could do it during the week if you need to so you can spend monies on something more useful! like mods... +1 Yes Please ... that would be a great help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I added the Fuel system cleaner to a quarter tank on Saturday and ran the car to near empty over the weekend ... I haven't noticed much of a difference from using it but I suppose it couldn't have done any harm ... the guy at Nissan said that they usually include it in every other service ... I think the throttle body is going to need good clean ... clarkie34, any updates on yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 I'll go out in a minute... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Ok here we go! Tools needed: Socket Wrench with number 8 and 10 Allen Key nr 5 Cleaner: & Optional *I like it too & and old tshirt/rag etc to clean the trottle body with It took me 5-10 minutes to take off the throttle body from my car and put it on the table. Expect total 30 min for this job I'd say. Lets see where this baby is located in the engine bay! My engine bay looks a bit different from normal ones since I got the Kinetix Velocity manifold... you will need to loosen 2 more nuts/bolts then I do (will cover this though) First we need to loosen some screws that hold the intake tubing. #Release the bolt that you will have fastened to the top of your plenum think it's nr 10 as shown in red rectangle below Then hold it up a bit and release the below shown bolt, using the socket wrench with nr 8 socket. Once release (not all the way...) you will go down to the following bolt shown below in red and release this one too, using socket nr 10. you will need to release this lower bolt too, located on the middle of the tubing. Think it's a nr 10 socket there to (not sure since mine ain't connected no more ) See below for location Now you will need to pull the top of the tubing off the TB housing, you will need to use some twisting/jerking moves here once off you do the same on the lower tubing connecting to the airbox once off you can twist the whole thing to the right hand side, mind so you don't twist it to much there is a hose connected to the bottom of the tubing. Now you can also see the TB internals, hopefully not to dirty... Mine wasn't since I cleaned it not long ago. You got two options here, spray the cleaner spray in the hole while you keep the TB open then leave the solution to do it's magic for 5-10 minutes then spray some more onto the cloth and rub at the top and bottom until clean, I would normally do this but since it started raining (again) I decided to take the whole throttle body off and do this inside instead for this you will need the Allen key nr 5 and take out the 4 bolts two on each side, see photos below for illustration on location. Once loose you need to disconnect the electric connector thingy. I'm pretty happy when it looks like this Don’t forget to clean here to if you take the TB off! Now it's free! Find a suitable table to work on, if the miss isn’t home the kitchen table is a gold location Clean until you're happy no more dirt comes off, refit in reverse order and do an ECU reset and possibly a throttle body position reset (never did the latter on mine) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 That's an excellent Guide! I'll be having a go at that this weekend! Thanks a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 That's an excellent Guide! I'll be having a go at that this weekend! Thanks a lot! pm if you have any q;s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I've just had a go at cleaning out my throttle body ... I was planning on removing it so that I could give it a really good clean but my allen keys weren't very good .. I was still able to give it a thorough clean while still attached though so I'm pleased with the result ... I haven't been out for a drive yet but will let you know if there is any noticable difference compared to before ... Anyway here are the before and after pics ... Before: The TB was very dirty and there was lots of black deposits ... After: Looking much healthier now. I held the butterfly valve open and sprayed some cleaner through ... then used a cloth to wipe away all the black stuff ... Thanks andlid for an excellent guide .. it really made it easy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Mine is still having this problem. Can any damage be done forcing the butterfly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 that looked dirty! Let me know how you get on with the drive, be carefull not braking that butterfly, it shouldn't need to be forced (only opens one way) Glad to be of help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narcotix Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I'll find out tomorrow as I don't really have any plans to go out today ... clarkie34, It didn't need any force to open the butterfly valve ... It just requires a bit of pressure to open it .. I think next time I'm going to remove it completely and give it an even better clean ... but for now that's done the trick! I should have taken some pics of the cloth after I'd finished cleaning ... It was almost completely black by the end .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkie34 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 I have just done this and it made no difference.Plenty of crap came out the throttle but it's still behaving the same. Back to Nissan me thinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrh Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 Just done this myself this afternoon. Have cleaned the throttle on all my cars in the past but this was the worst. Took multiple sprays and three whole paper towels to remove the layer of black sludge. Only went out for a quick test after but hot idle seems to have gone from about 675 to 800 rpm, so it's definitely breathing easier on a light throttle. Butterfly feels lighter sprung than one worked by cable but remember you're turning the motor when you move it. Just be slow and smooth opening/closing it and you can't wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andlid Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 if its not working with just a clean try an ecu reset and possibly a throttle reset (last resort, take out the intake filter from the filter box and try without it...) stay away from Nissan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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