LRF4N Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 http://www.worldcarfans.com/115072396945/german-students-set-a-new-0-100-kmh-world-record-of This will make gangzoom proud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veilside z Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grundy Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yeaaaaaaaahhhh!!!......listen how @*!# it sounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT350 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Warp speed Mr Data. Engage. Make it so. Off we go. Where to, don't nobody know. Sorry. Nippy that thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) Any quicker and it's more or less teleportation Edited July 23, 2015 by SuperStu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMballistic Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Yeaaaaaaaahhhh!!!......listen how @*!# it sounds. Have to be honest and say I've actually had remote controlled electric 1/10th scale cars that sounded better than that although I can't deny it was bl**dy quick off the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 http://www.worldcarf...world-record-of This will make gangzoom proud How come, i cant see any Tesla badging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) http://www.worldcarfans.com/115072396945/german-students-set-a-new-0-100-kmh-world-record-of This will make gangzoom proud That's quick, but am sure it'll get quicker, let's wait see what happens in a few years time when EVs continue to develop. Though by the time you get to 1.5 seconds G forces will really start to come into play!! I think sub 2.5 second 0-60 times will become accessible on quite a few road going mass produced EVs, rather than just a handful of supercars. There will than be some horrendous crashes, and a new 'temporary' law will be passed to enforce a minimal limit for 0-60 time, we'll than spend the next 50 years arguing about why the law is pointless when it's 3 am and your on empty dual carriage way Edited July 23, 2015 by gangzoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Actually looks like 1.5 seconds is ready been done....in a MX5 of all things....Anyone fancy shelling out their MX5 for a sub 1.5 second machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Putting power to the ground is the limiting factor, ice or ev, you still face the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
350zroadsterGT Posted July 24, 2015 Share Posted July 24, 2015 Yea, it'll get to 60 bloody quick but 50 miles down the road you've got an 8 hr charge to look forward to, the zed may be slower off the blocks but I can go 300+ miles and in 3-4 minutes be paying for fuel and continuing my journey. Pan European road trips are a distant goal for any performance EV's, unless you want to take couple of months off work...even then what fun would it be without the great sound of your v6/v8 (whatever) in the mountains and tunnels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) Yea, it'll get to 60 bloody quick but 50 miles down the road you've got an 8 hr charge to look forward to, the zed may be slower off the blocks but I can go 300+ miles and in 3-4 minutes be paying for fuel and continuing my journey. Pan European road trips are a distant goal for any performance EV's, unless you want to take couple of months off work...even then what fun would it be without the great sound of your v6/v8 (whatever) in the mountains and tunnels... The current Model S is already at close to 300 miles of range, with Supercharges been able to deliver 80% charge in about 30 minutes - Time needed for brake/food. It's likely the battery capacity is going to go up 5-10% per year for the same cost, so come 2017 a 100kWh battery pack will be the same cost at the current 85kWh pack - which even at a relative un-efficent 3.3 miles per kWh translates to a range of well over 300 miles....Which is more than what my 335i could manage on £70+ of unleaded in day to day use. It takes a bit more planning to an European tour , but actually not that hard with Tesla Supercharges...oh and there are NO fuel costs. Looking at the number of Superchargers planned for Europe by the end of 2015, I could easily repeat the pan-european road trip I did last summer in the BMW in a Tesla Model S next summer without any issues, and with the added advantage of no fuel costs. But sadly due to been a pleb I cannot justify spending £50K on a car when I already have a perfectly good car on lease/interest free PCP, so need to wait till end 2016 before I can order anything like a Tesla for delivery in early 2017. But once we do get hold of a car that can access the Tesla Supercharger network, the holiday for 2017 is already planned, blast to Norway, and than spend a week or so exploring the Atlantic highway....Cannot wait Slightly tempted to do commit some finical suicide by ordering a Model S now anyways and just leave the Leaf parked up on the driveway, but that really wouldn't do down well with the wife. Still no harm in waiting till at least early 2016, when Tesla announce some details the up and coming model 3..... Edited July 25, 2015 by gangzoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Before you set off for Norway, on my recent road trip I couldn't move for EVs around the cities, but they dried up pretty quick after Bergen and further north. In one place up North on the border between Norway/Sweden, I asked a local (at a petrol station ironically) for the nearest cash point, it was nearly a 4 hour round trip. I bet they have more cash points than superchargers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 (edited) I was originally going to go a Model 3 to replace the Leaf, but actually its likely because Tesla is trying to lower the price of entry on the Model 3, it's not going to have a battery any where near the size of the Model S, so for me, a 100 kWh Model S will be pretty much perfect, I suspect by 2017 a 100kWh Model S will on-sale for the same price as the current 85 kWh model. Assuming 100 kWh of battery will get you an extra 10-15% more range than the 85 kWh, even in cold conditions, and driving at 70mph, the real life range should be easily more than 200 miles. Looking at the Supercharging network in Norway they are pretty much spaced out at 250km apart, with a few with-in 150Km of each other. Which you will be cover comfortably in a 100kWh Model S with no issues. This is more than enough range for our holiday needs. In 4 years of owing the BMW, the only time I fuelled it up at a service station was on the European road trip. Our daily use of the car is the odd 100-150 mile trip to see the parents, which even the current 70 kWh Model S can cover non-stop - and once we get to the destination, simply plug it-in overnight, and when we are ready for the return trip, we wouldn't even have to go and find a local petrol station. I've already now covered over 2000 miles in the Leaf with its 70 mile range battery - and no access to any Tesla supercharger, haven't had any problems with 'range anxiety' or running out of charge yet, so I'm sure a Model S with nearly three times the range of the Leaf will do me fine Edited July 25, 2015 by gangzoom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 300 mile range driving how? Pootling along at 55mph? Long blats at 80mph? What happens when you turn the heater/AC and the stereo on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Ah, you posted just as I did. 200mi driving at 70mph? Sod that. Few squirts and you know that's the wrong side of 150mi, I could beat that in the 645 pretty much nailing it everywhere! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stutopia Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Mate, I'm just letting you know what I saw the locals do in a country that is probably even keener on EVs than you are, and they don't bother in the countryside, make of that what you will I have literally never driven anywhere else where the road just stops, with no warning, and turns into a 10 foot wall of snow and you have a 5 hr detour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 Ah, you posted just as I did. 200mi driving at 70mph? Sod that. Few squirts and you know that's the wrong side of 150mi, I could beat that in the 645 pretty much nailing it everywhere! Yes but your having to put up with having an internal combustion engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ekona Posted July 25, 2015 Share Posted July 25, 2015 I know, all that wonderful noise and glorious feedback, heaven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gangzoom Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 I know, all that wonderful noise and glorious feedback, heaven! Been there, done that, it was alright but for me it's time to move on. Life is too short to waste on experiencing the same thing again and again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetpilot Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Wow, you must have the patience of a saint to want to stop every 150-200 miles for 30 minute recharge becareful of the hills and cold weather too, you might be stopping for 30 minutes every couple of hours or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilogikal1 Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Stuff Yet again, promises of what will be (possibly, perhaps, if the tech develops that way and is actually brought to market) at theoretical price points which theoretical permanence claims. Try and do that Euro journey NOW and see how long it'll take you. It might not cost you a penny in fuel (I have no idea if Europe offers free charge points at all, let alone how common they are there) but it'll cost you a hell of a lot more in lost work days! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Leave the guy alone, we need enthusiastic people like him, otherwise the technology would never progress! Looking forward to warp speed too, 2020, what do you think gangzoom? But first, let's play in a GTR for a while! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRF4N Posted July 26, 2015 Author Share Posted July 26, 2015 How did this turn into another tesla in Europe debate? I go away for 5 mins and you lot are arguing again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrian@TORQEN Posted July 26, 2015 Share Posted July 26, 2015 Kids and their toys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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