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Do it now, or you'll never do it. Suck up any money lost and do it full-time, you'll get the hands on experience you'll need that colleges don't teach these days. We've got a young lad (16) started with us and his one day a week at college is taken up by H&S courses of learning how to lift boxes, and maffs and English tests. I kid you not, the kid learns nothing about plumbing there. The building trade is still very quiet (more or less), so you may struggle to get work right now. That said, decent Part P sparkies can charge what they want, it just costs a load to get there in both money and effort. Also, and don't take this the wrong way, but £12K a year is shockingly bad money. I'd be doing something I enjoyed at the least if I was earning that little a year, so honestly you don't really have much to lose apart from not having a job at all. I wish I'd done it years ago truth be told, I'd have loved to be a copper of any kind but there's no opportunities for that now.

Spoilers look pretty. Wings change the air movement across the car. I wouldn't put a wing on my car unless I was very confident of what difference it would make to the aero, but I'd happily put a spoiler on to make it look a bit nicer.

Do you have even the remotest clue as to how brakes or ABS actually work??!!

It's a car. Drifting isn't going to break it.

Another +1 for DMS.

It has been reported, in every bit of coverage I've read/seen they've mentioned it. It's not as important as the main story though, and it only happened because Suarez ignored Evra.

Except that the insurance company is far less likely to want to insure you if you're not the legal owner of the car. You will find that most won't touch you, and the ones that do won't be that cheap at all. What you really want to do is to go and actually purchase a very cheap snotter (like an '87 2CV) and then do the same thing, which is perfectly legal and you'll find that 99% of insurers will want your business, so it'll come out a bit cheaper. £100 purchase cost of a proper shed could save you that easy in the first year or two of ownership. The question has been posed before as to how much of a car you actually have to own before it's no longer a car: For example, a car without doors and an engine is still a car, but what if you remove literally everything and are left with just the chassis? I'd say that was still a car (albeit a stripped one, but classics going in for major restoration work can often be found like that). What about if you cut the A-pillars off? Still a car, yes? So how much can be removed? Technically you only need own the chassis plate to register a vehicle, but I'm not sure if that would actually count as a car in a court of law...

One of the sports reporters on Sky earlier today made an interesting point about all this, and how it could be stopped from getting this far again. With regards to the handshake now being a huge thing (JT & Bridge, as well as Evra and Suarez), instead of just being what you should do to be sportsman-like, if the FA make it mandatory to have a handshake with your opposition then any player not doing it can be charged with bringing the game into disrepute and given a punishment from there as necessary. It would mean an end to the whole will-he-won't-he thing we've had of late, and make it a lot easier for the FA to act over stuff like this.

Well, it's my post and so it's not "end of". Just because it's "your" thread doesn't mean you're not completely wrong though. What you're calling acceptable driving, there is no justification for. Please enlighten me as to why you feel it's appropriate to put other people in the position where one mistake by either car could cause serious damage to both machinery and person? Just because you feel you have to get right up someone's chuff under braking, or up the inside at a corner, why should someone else's P&J be put at risk because you don't feel you should have to wait? What's wrong with being sensible when it comes to high speed on track? I was at Combe yesterday in an R300, in temps of -6 with ice on the track, and I can promise you I wasn't holding back at any point and neither were any of the other drivers, and I ended up very sideways through Quarry on a number of occasions. However, everyone gave everyone else plenty of room and time and no-one had any less fun because of it. There were a couple of guys who were much quicker than me (two in R300s and one guy in an SC Elise who was spectacular to watch) but they never sat right up behind me pushing me on, and as a courtesy I let them through fairly sharpish. No issues on either side, no risk of damage, no less fun. There's a reason that trackday insurance went through the roof a few years ago, and that's precisely because of attitudes like yours when people felt it was okay to bully others around on track, and as a consequence there were a spate of accidents. Thankfully the TDOs have wised up and now crack down on behaviour like that far quicker than they used to (Circuit Days at Anglesey a couple of years back were the exception, dreadful driving standards!). It's for everyone's benefit that there are rules at trackdays, as what would have happened if the guy being undertaken in the corner under braking hadn't seen the GTR and turned into him? Would it have been fun then? You're damn right that I'm pushing this and not letting it drop, because I've had friends in the situation where idiots have decided that they didn't want to wait 10 secs longer and driven so aggressively that there was car to car contact, and the poor guy who was minding his own business was clipped in a big way. There is no valid reason for driving like a tool on a trackday. Why do you think there's so many closures and incidents on the Ring these days? In a race you're fair game, on a test day you need to keep your wits about you, but on a track day where there is no competition? Nope, there's no justification for driving that close. Ever.

Perfectly put.

Evra needed someone to have words with him, and I suspect SAF would've done that after the game. Any Liverpool fan who defends Suarez's actions is a complete moron. Dalglish came across no better in his interview with Geoff Shreeves on Sky either. Liverpool used to a club all about the respect for the game, but we saw none of that yesterday. Suarez should've shook his hand whilst screaming obscenities in his head and then this would all be over.

Oh I've no doubt it's fun, until you take the front end of an F430 Scud off and either have to pay the bill or spend your life in hiding. It's a trackday, not a race or a test day there is never any excuse for that kind of driving, end of.

Answered my own question - they are already all over the internet! Post them up then, chop chop!

Not so much "If Carlsberg did trackdays...", more like "If Stella Artois did trackdays..." IMHO.

+1 The guy is a complete f*cking idiot. It's a trackday, not a race, so why the hell is he diving up the inside on corners and almost taking the front of the other car off?

On track with BaT today, looking very nice and definitely keeping the GT-R that was there honest

Exactly, which was the point I made.

It'll fail an MOT, but that doesn't make it illegal to drive it as it is. If you remove all trace of the airbag and there's nothing there that could cause you to either lose control of the vehicle OR cause yourself or others in the car damage were you to have another accident, then you'll be fine. That said, I wouldn't want to drive a car too far that's been in an accident big enough for the airbags to deploy without getting it checked over by a professional.

Hiddink would be a great shout, and probably more successful than 'Arry, but not really popular enough outside of Chelsea right now I suspect.

Well, maybe take them as morale in the dressing room but certainly don't play them. We've had years of the so-called Golden Generation who have won nothing, and while I'm not saying that they're not great players (because Gerrard, Terry, Rio, Cole, Lampard etc clearly are) there's clearly no point sticking with them. Let's take a leaf out of Germany's book and accept a few years of (more) rubbish in order to build a team that can really compete in the next WC.

I wouldn't take a single player over the age of 25. Forget the Euros, build a team for the WC.

Lolwut I assume you're kidding?