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I used to enjoy the build too, then I realised it was just faff and risk that I didn't really need to add to the experience. Nope, much rather pay some Filipino kid $2 a week to build it for me

Self build is just a PITA, rather spend my days using the thing than building it

Self build or pre built? I can highly recommend PC Specialist if not self building, they really are superb and excellent customer service.

Plus you need so much more power to go that fast, Chiron has 1500bhp and is limited to 260mph as they can't make road tyres last at those kind of speeds

Top speed is useless these days, it's all about how you use the power you've got to go fast round a track. If you gear the car for top speed it blunts acceleration.

Nooooo, Vette over that definitely!

Go and put your hand near the exhaust, then see if you still think it's cool enough.

Not reall, no. Would you put your hand on the backbox after a drive? I wouldn't, it's bloody hot. Try it at the exhaust tip, the coldest place, and it'll still be too warm to touch.

No fun in that!

Spoiler spoils airflow to reduce lift, wing adds downforce (in theory).

NA exhaust temps at the manifold are about 700c, drop a little for having passed through the cats and you're there. Go warm the car up, leave the exhaust running for 10 mins then put your hand close but not touching the y-pipe. Trust me, that's proper hot and you really don't want to be touching it properly.

If you like the F-Type, exhaust on or off, then tbh you can skip this test and just get a new exhaust. Those things are LOUD

650/675 looked utterly immense, so much character and purpose. This just looks designed by computer. Still smaller than the 570?

Literally just what I said to Adrian in PM

Nope, that's ugly. Comparatively, of course.

I made up the time span, but tbh you'd know within 10 mins much less 30 mins. What could be damaged? Get under and have a look, see what's nearby to where the leak is going to be, easiest way. Temps will be about 500c, could double that if it was FI. Boot isn't very well sealed so fumes very likely to get it, how much is debates me but there will be some, I tend not to muck around with CO at all given how lethal it can be. Again, first sporty car?

I think the odds of ever finding a used BBK from an E63 coming up for grabs is quite small, but I don't disagree with the theory. Reyland looks a good option, although Adrian is looking at whether one of his kits could be made to fit for me which is looking very promising right now too

Have you considered what may happen in these two scenarios? 1. You like it louder, so you go and research and find another exhaust that gives you the exact same volume increase (assuming you can measure it accurately on the move). You fit the exhaust, then discover it drones or the tone is awful. Money wasted. 2. You do your mod and hate it, far too loud so you stick with OEM. You then miss out on having a nice sounding car because the test gave you a completely wrong perception of what a good exhaust can sound like. The odds of you doing the test, then researching the volume, then buying an exhaust that just so happens to sound exactly like it is an absolutely minute chance of happening. You'd have more chance of winning the lottery. Have you ever owned a sporty car before? Ever had a performance exhaust put on it? Genuine question.

No-one minds showing off their exhausts dude I wouldn't want to run with an exhaust leak for much more than maybe 30 mins tops, you don't know what damage the heat would do to other stuff down there plus the risk of CO poisoning in the cabin. Tbh everyone already knows that the 350 can easily take a louder exhaust than stock regardless of who you are, as it's not a quiet car anyway due to road noise. The difference comes between whether you want a Milltek or a BuddyClub at the extremes, or anywhere in between. That's not something you'll determine from a year running around with an exhaust leak.

You leave my Jaffa Barge alone

Tone is vital though, much more vital than simple volume. If you have two exhausts of equal volume but one sounds rough as hell or drones at certain revs, you'll absolutely hate it. It's why companies spend a fortune in sound tuning, not just volume. You would have a much more useful comparison if you arranged a mini meet of 4 or 5 cars and spent 10 mins passengering in each. Let's assume you do like it louder, which exhaust would you go for? How would you make that decision?

Two weeks salary then

Can we leave for a second until he's answered the last bit of my last post please? Promise to keep it civil.

A Corsa with a 6" exhaust is louder than a stock 350z, but which sounds better? Do you see where we're going here? Yes, your test will be louder, it also won't give anything like a real-world idea of what a new exhaust will sound like. Let's pretend for one second it does though: So what? Let's assume you're happy with a louder exhaust, how do you propose to translate that into buying a new setup?

It won't sound anything like how a louder exhaust will though. It'll sound like a blowing exhaust, which is 100% different in tone. How many times do we have to state this before it sinks in?