Plenty of people that don't have the foggiest about cars, let alone drive them, guys too. A guy in another club (not a car club), was asking some questions about a service he'd just had done on his car, asking about what he'd been charged, asking if I thought it was excessive. Anyway, then I say to him you drive a Nissan don't you, answer "yes". Here's the funny part, he goes "do they still make cars". Yes this is very true, happened on Sunday. Me politely laughing heartily on the inside.