Good point H5.
For the members that have had a big trek for the Wales drives then usually they have stayed the night before at least to break it up. That could be an option obviously.
You're right, it does depend on what we want it to be - poll????
Then lets keep the Wales drive outs for all the good reasons everyone enjoys them. I don't think this is meant to replace anything that is already done.
Why not add a big collective at a static show and build up a reputation for the club?
+1 The Wales drive out is great but with a bigger event it would make the longer drive more worthwhile. The idea of Donny appealed to me, or something similar. This would always encourage people to attend the other meets