Well having spent the last 3 years with the zed living out in the sticks, untreated country roads for five miles, people up your backside in their range rovers who don't appreciate you're in a RWD but I survived..........now i've moved onto a big new housing estate and i'm thinking this will be so much better - how wrong could i be??? Black ice, cars parked everywhere like skittles, corners to negotiate, bends, uphill to get out of the estate and then downhill to the main road.....nightmare. But what really pee'd me off was the fact that the last bit is a nasty sharp bend going up hill so you have no choice but to press the gas - the council have kindly placed a big grit container there. Has anyone who lives near that container put grit on the corner? NO have they hell! When i lived in a village everyone gritted on the bends where the council had left grit. So looks like a girl who lives at the other end of the estate is going to have to park on the hill and shovel the grit while the people in the big houses on the corner watch out of the window!