fiercedonkey

Might have been me - CF bonnet / rear wing though gunmetal Who did your APS TT by the way?

TBH I only did a few laps of that session as I was out of fuel.

It will cost £20K+ to do FI properly with a built motor. I am running HKS internals and on V-Power 98-Octane with 1.2 bar boost it ran at 604bhp / 610 ftLb Hope this helps

With respect, that's the power/torque at the wheels and not necessarily what's transferred onto the road. Some these cars you are comparing to have 4 wheel drive and all were design to handle much more power and torque, so real world performance is about traction and handling. So in summary in the real world I think a Veyron and many others on your list will be quicker. You should see a big power RWD Cossie doing a standing quarter. All wheel spin and smoke..... BTW - Would love to see the Cossie sometime, another animal altogether I'm sure Sure thing, where abouts are you. I'm Derbyshire. It would be nice to see the 2 a the track. Would be a hard call as the Cossie as a weight advantage but nowhere near the torque and a very peaky power and torque curve. I'm hoping to do a track day at Donington in July ish. Derbyshire is quite a long way from here unfortunately. Am going to the Silverstone event on 3rd June if you're going to that.

With respect, that's the power/torque at the wheels and not necessarily what's transferred onto the road. Some these cars you are comparing to have 4 wheel drive and all were design to handle much more power and torque, so real world performance is about traction and handling. So in summary in the real world I think a Veyron and many others on your list will be quicker. You should see a big power RWD Cossie doing a standing quarter. All wheel spin and smoke..... Point taken - this was merely to demonstrate the torque delivered from FI application. Of course most of the cars on that list have significant engineering behind them, but look at the price tag. Having said that once you get to the higher gears where the torque is multipled down by the transmission and WOT on-boost is manageable then I think you will see it surprise a few big name cars. Certainly application of power is tricky. Have driven it in the dry for first time today and on full boost will break loose on the straight in everything up to 4th!!! 4th/5th are probably the most exciting gears - will just about stick with care and the pull is frankly somewhat mental BTW - Would love to see the Cossie sometime, another animal altogether I'm sure

Yes but it's the torque that is so phenominal with this settup and what ultimately is the true measure of in gear acceleration. Check this comparison out!

Wow, 2 bar should be 900 bhp++.... Do it, do it..... Boost controller, 1.2 to 2 bar?..... The GT Garretts on the APS TT kit are quite small and so spool up very quickly - hence the fairly flat torque curve. However, they won't actually make much more boost than this beforre they become inefficient. There is though the option putting bigger turbos on the current settup to make more torque - the fueling for this is certainly available with the current settup. I think the GT-30 series will fit in the current format. Stop putting bad ideas in my head! Don't forget this is my daily.

It's just under 17.5 psi which is 1.2 bar

Here is the boost graph as promised:

Cheers Allan I think it's appropriate that I publically thank you for all the effort that has gone into this build; This is the first car that I have seriously modified and my experience, thanks to all at WRC-T, has been very enjoyable and I have had a lot of fun! Hopefully a lot more fun to come! I am extremely glad I chose to bring my car to WRC-T; at the end of the day one puts one's trust in the hands of a company and there seem to be a lot of unscrupulous operators in the industry. The work that Jamie and the guys on the shop floor have done has always been of the highest standard - not to mention the amount of personal interest they show in customers cars - how refreshing! Then of course there's the all important tune. I do feel very fortunate to have had a tuner with Chris' talent working his magic on the car. Even before we did the build I was amazed how much grunt he got out of the stock engine while still running less boost than others and I think the recent dyno chart speaks for itself - even on a fairly immature engine. You'd have to go a long way to find a better setup than the service provided at WRC-T. From my own first hand experience I can wholeheartedly recommend this company to anybody thinking of similar projects themselves. As Allan states - I was heavily involved with my build and they were very relaxed with my presence which suited me well. However, if you are not that way inclined I'm sure they would happily run a project with minimal involvement required. Thanks again guys Nick

WRC-T did the original APS-TT kit, which is a fairly standard kit to which they have a tried and tested installation process. That was done last year. This project has been a completely different ball game all together - hence the use of the word "project". It has been more of a journey, with many choices to make on the way. Some things have cropped up on the and we have gone back and changed things. It has taken a huge amount of man hours in research both on my part and on the part of Allan at WRC-T and an equally large amount of time working on the car, but this is what it takes if you want it to be on the money! I think it is fair to say that in doing something of this scale you cannot bolt a catalogue of bits to a car and drive away. Where would the fun in that be! For sure I have learnt a huge amount about my car in doing this and what will work and what won't - for example the motor turned out so much torque on it's first run that it toasted an Exedy Twin Plate Carbon Hyper-clutch - oops! Needless to say that WRC-T, although extremely capable of undertaking projects of this size and bigger - and I think it fair to say at this point they have done a fantastic job, I am over the moon with the way this has turned out - they too will have gained invaluable knowledge by doing this project. So the next person to have a go at something like this with a 350z at WRC-T will obviously have access to this knowledge too and the turn around may be quicker. Still it is always a big big job and it takes time - a good job should never be rushed. Obviously I have taken a lot of advice from the Guys at WRC but I like to be heavily involved in what goes on with my cars and they have been very accomodating with this. I have probably been up at Silverstone I think nearly every week during this project; which constitutes many weeks of hard work! The final result has been a culmination of joint decisions on many of the components, some Allan's choice, some mine - if you start off with one list you can bet it will be a very different list by the end! WRC-T have certainly managed the project, but they will give you what you want, not what they think you should want - obviously that goes within the boundaries of your choice being sensible and includes a certain amount of guidance to make sure the end result will make you go The project continues - we still have some ancillaries to fit, gauges, brakes are a consideration and a few other bits and pieces. The final map will have to wait for a few thousand more miles..... Hope this helps Nick

Am at work till late tonight but will post the HP/PSI chart when I get home. Will be doing a few track days this year, but this is also my daily driver. Actually is quite docile if you're light with the right foot. I will be at Silverstone June 3rd for the parade lap - The car will also be on a the WRC-Technology stand that day. Nick

Yes did have the APS on before. Was fantastic in this format too - now just slightly mental! Engine internals looked absolutely fine to the naked eye when they came out. Obviously can't comment on whether there was any sign of fatigue at the molecular level. But then WRCT send their cars out with a conservative map! Safe fun in other words. With a proper map this settup should be safe, and Chris is certainly very tallented when it comes to mapping! WRC-T have done quite a few of these now on the stock motor without issue to date. It was running 400hp/400 lb-ft before - enough for a big smile. Cheers Nick

As some of you may know my car has been with WRC-Technologies (Silverstone) for a little while having a full re-build done with forged internals etc. The project has been managed and all work / mapping done by WRC-T with the engine-build being done by Duncan McLellan of DMC-Engines, amongst other projects he built all the FQ-400 units for Mitsubishi. http://www.dmcengines.com/about.htm Spec as follows: Engine Hks forged pistons with keronite coated crowns Hks forged conrods Nitrided crankshaft, ground & balanced Hks steel head gaskets Arp head stud kit Acl tri - metal main bearings Acl tri - metal conrod bearings Iridium plugs Heads – stock, cleaned/de-coked APS Extreme Performance Full Return Fuel System: Twin billet alloy high volume fuel rails twin boost referenced 4 Bar fuel pressure regulators replacement in-tank twin fuel pump anti-surge tank 880cc fuel injectors. Teflon lined stainless steel braided fuel lines HKS F-Con V-Pro ECU HKS EVC-V boost controller APS-Twin Turbo kit: Twin Garrett GT Series Turbos APS Plenum APS Strut Brace APS Intercooler 3 ½â€

Thanks guys. might leave it alone and go down carputer route then and use the PAC AAI-NIS2 adapter to get the sound into it. Therefore will be able to control mp3 etc and still keep stock system.