As helpful as ever
Its just that it is always easier to blame the equipment than to blame the person controlling the vehicle All tyres loose traction at a certain point, some earlier than others. Its a matter of learning the limits of your car. Or e.g. when you crash your car coz you missed a corner coz you went too fast are you also gonna say your Z is @*!# and you are going to buy an Elise to solve that problem?
I ve encountered some fun ones myself with the Z on wet roads, with ESP on, simple straight-line acceleration on the highway and the back started moving when going from 2nd to 3rd, but hey, this is no FWD vehicle, RWD needs to be treated with respect
Saying "my tyres are @*!#", "my suspension is @*!#", "my car is @*!#" is just too easy imho. Everything is @*!# at a certain level then (by which i do not mean you should not put decent tyres on a car or never do things to increase its performance. You ll just move the limits, but they ll still be there, you cannot change the laws of physics Jim )