Yeah that is the plan, when things calm down at work i will be getting to a few meets, then i stand a good chance of having a live demo, like you say listening to a youtube vid over my laptop at exhaust sounds wont give me a "real" sound.. i know the sound i want, i just need to marry it up to a system, from the reading i have done its either the Ark or Invidia. I do have a feeling the Invidia maybe a tad too quiet for me, a real life experience will be the decider, bottom line is i want a rich deep sound, louder than stock but not asbo inducing. I work day/nightshifts and i fear the unsociable hours coming and going would drive my neighbours nuts otherwise i would have a TDx2 on the list..haha !...