davey_83

Haha they'll have too

It's there alright, just maybe not in the way Captain Cook had imaged or hoped. Unlearning what you've been told, I find it very interesting along with project highjump & also certain flight paths that I've witnessed myself as a yout.

Any takes on those flight paths making more sense on a flat plain? This is what Captain Cook was looking for all those years Terra Australis, he should have updated his sat nav lol At the time Europeans were obsessed with exploring, descovering new animals, plants and mapping the world in detail for the first time, as so much of it was unknown and ready to be claimed!!! All that time, distance and effort to which he could not find the mystical land at the bottom of the earth. Either he couldn't find it because it's not there or he was misinformed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terra_Australis

Pretty sure at long range say after 100 miles atmosphere even on a clear day kills visibility. FE doesn't for a lot of reasons hold water, however a amateur laser across a flat frozen lake which is seen without needing to go up a ladder is there to make of what you will. Again a salt flat filled with a thin layer of rain water looks pretty flat also, fake NASA footage of astronauts just isn't cricket and there's more. Jay's flight path was funny also as its as straight as you like, I personally have been on a plane and the route was coastal from the top of the US down to Jamaica starting from Manchester. That makes no sense on a globe, wait maybe the pilot wanted a detour for the benefit of the guests onboard. Check out operation highjump, why send nearly 5000 men and women, 13 ships, 33 aircraft to Antarctica staright after a world war? You do not send that type of might and spend that type of money for no good reason!!!! Sooooo strange when you look into it.

Again I don't think the flat earth model hold an intellectual debate, how could it but I find the topic interesting. For me the Captain Cook matter I still see as a mystery, he wasn't looking for the south pole, wasn't intending to get off his boat at Antarctica - he wanted to circumnavigate and map it. Something he could have at least done a long way of from the coast to do so. Even 1/2 miles away he could at least circle it without risk from hazardous floating ice. There's no escaping this guy was smart, very smart I do not buy he simply ran out of talent as his 250yr old maps are used today and are being reproach. The FE eclipse is caused from the same reasons as the globe, the moon *same size as the sun passes in front of the sun. I watched sea shore amateur videos whereby the out of site ship is seen again with a powerful zoom lens. Something not possible to do at the time when the globe model was beginning to take shape nearly 2000 years ago. Weather something appears flat over 7 miles or 70, it's still flat. Salt flats covered in a think layer of water proves this. The video below unless a fake of course again proves there is no 20ft of curve drop that is said to be present after 7 miles of distance. What's your thoughts on the flights paths I and Jay put up?

Folks have used high end lasers across serval miles (7.5miles) of frozen lake and it shows to be flat shore to shore. This should not be possible using the globe model as there should be cicra 20ft of curve bend.

A total eclipse can happen regardless of the shape of the earth. A round object casing a shadow on a spherical one, would show a elliptical shadow as the shadow begins to wrap and follow the shape of the globe. Ships that sail over the horizon appear to show a globe earth, however a strong zoom lens brings the object back into view. That would be impossible if the ship went over the curve. Also the ship should sail up the curve and then down the other side. The nature of gravity was confirmed when the light from stars were found to bend due to the gravitational forces from the sun during a total eclipse in the 1910's hhmmmmmm OK. Info from NASA has its limitations due to green screen. Pretty sure Bruce Willis went to space too, I saw the footage and everything. The Antarctica peace treaty shows governments can work together despite what scandals come up during an election.

ACEA C3 is recommended for the VQ35DE https://www.oilspecifications.org I say go for it, if you don't like it after 100 miles swap it out.

Has the Roadster passed the earth at night as yet, I wanna see Vegas or Toyko at night - would look cool.

Exactly, cool indeed

What do you make of the Bolivias salt flats?

Again this is interesting and doesn't fit the globe model. Either the water is flat as per every test ever conducted or the salt flat is curved over the 10.5km sq and the water curves with it. I guess water need for surface area to start doing its thing. https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2017/feb/23/bolivias-salt-flats-in-pictures

To avoid assumptions, I'm not a FEer. I like our globe, the model works it looks good, I see it at the start of every Fast & Furious movie

^ straight shot on a flat earth map if you look LOL

Yeah never a straight answer but it's not easy model to get one's head around. I also like flight paths, in 2004 when going to Jamaica I thought why for hours on end are we following the coast line all the way to the west Indies? UK, to a country with nowt but Ice *later looking and Greenland or parts of Canada fits that bill. Then New York very recognisable out the O/S window, then followed by land and then coast until there wasn't any left. I remember this vividly as I thought we were going to Vegas, seem to be over land so long from the view out the window. Anyone who has flown over the US on a clear day will know the east cost is peppered with ovals. For miles and miles, at a guess honestly saw between 50 and 70 ovals. Either race tracks or horse racing tracks, then followed the coast thereafter. At for I thought it was a safety thing as should the plan go down, your buy land. Since then I never thought about it. However looking at this again and that path we took is a straight shot on a flat plain oddly enough. From what I gather advertised flight paths to the west indies go across the Atlantic ocean and doesn't trace the coast.

Doesn't add up that he couldn't circumnavigate Antarctica, the distance covered makes more sense on a flat earth compared to a globe IF one didn't know better. He saw it alright and describes its look in detail, Cook was no fool. I'm going to order one of his books, as above all else its very interesting.

Yeah didn't end well sadly. NASA name their rockets after this guys ships. You can supposedly overlay his maps with satellite images and they line up like my left hand over my right. The fact that this dudes maps are still used today some 250 years later, obviously all done by eye and at sea level is astounding. Clearly this guys was the very best at what he did, claiming countries along the way for the Queen. It wasn't the lack of technology holding this guy back, he's sailing the seas and drawing what he see's. Years and years at sea, circa 60,000 miles covered in one voyage, overall three attempts and yet he never mapped/found Antarctica. Don't add up............

Captain James Cook was an interesting dude, amazing map maker from the 18th century. His maps today are still used, he never mapped Antarctica even though supposedly that was his mission. What you think?

30bhp gain if you don't like driving, less 150kg if you like driving - I like driving

Perfect opportunity to advise (as the thread has just gone over to page 3), ive made an error *don't let the Mrs here I've said that out loud!!! So the venue for our club meet lunch wise, is no longer a international buffet. I've spoken with David there to book in and it's a carvery. For me this is even better, but I apologise for not checking this prior to the OP. I blame out of date Google maps info Cheers Simon, nope nothing else to confirm. I sure hope they have enough cooks/staff to accommodate haha I've added you and Mrs to the list, welkom aboard. 1. davey_83 - Lunch + 1 2. Mopedmark - Lunch + 1 3. Silky - Lunch + 1 4. Shezza - Lunch + 1 5. nissanman312 - Lunch tbc 6. antnee - Lunch 7. JamesT2992 - Lunch tbc 8. CLASSIX - Lunch + 1 9. Niknik350 - Lunch + 1 10. Flashback - Lunch +1 11. 14N - Lunch 12. Buster - lunch +1 13. MattyBacon - lunch +1 14. Bhupz350 - LUNCH (TBC) 15. TOM McKAY - LUNCH +1 (TBC) 16. Chaz Lunch +1 (via mattybacon) 17. Andy_Muxlow +1 Lunch. 18. JohnK (via mattybacon) no lunch 19. Justthejedi - Lunch 20. Wendy - Lunch 21. Valy + 1 - Lunch 22. Sim - Lunch 23. Mrs Sim - Lunch

Will we get to see the night side of the globe? Sure hope so as it's meant to be real pretty.

In a straight line possibly both options would perform similar?

Me and a good pal was chatting and had different views, the question posed was "would you rather an extra 30bhp from your Zed or have it weigh 150kg less?"

Me and a good pal was chatting and had different views, the question posed was "would you rather an extra 30bhp from your Zed or have it weigh 150kg less?"

I'd be looking to treat the clutch matter as a priority, the other repairs can happen later. Any decent independent garage will be able to replace the clutch, looking at 3.5hrs-4hrs labour plus parts.